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re: Tips for floating drywall? Update: did my first coat of mud and tape.

Posted on 6/10/25 at 8:06 am to
Posted by jlovel7
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
22876 posts
Posted on 6/10/25 at 8:06 am to
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Pay someone. Really...pay someone.


We just bought a house. We are stretched as far as we can possibly go without cutting into emergency stuff which I am not doing. We are a young couple in our first house. I appreciate the advice but paying someone thousands to do this simply isn’t an option. The money to do that does not exist.

But I will post my Venmo if Tigerdroppings wants to cover it!
This post was edited on 6/10/25 at 8:07 am
Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
5816 posts
Posted on 6/10/25 at 8:11 am to
Like most things related to construction, it's not hard if you know what you're doing. You won't know what you're doing the first time, so you're going to make mistakes.

Worst case scenario, you can always put up some wallpaper.
Posted by jlovel7
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
22876 posts
Posted on 6/10/25 at 8:13 am to
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Mix your own mud, the premixed shite in the box will leave you wanting to shoot yourself waiting for it to dry/picking bits of dried mud out the next day. Mixing your own will also let you adjust the consistency to what you find you are better working with. I know the package says x amount of water to x amount of mud, but a little extra water and a thinner mix works perfect for me.


I already bought a gallon of premixed heavyweight and lightweight USG mud. I have tons of projects to work on including painting the upstairs so if I have to go one day on, one day off for this to dry I can.

I can always push carpeting a week or two until we are ready. They said that’s not a huge deal.
Posted by jlovel7
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
22876 posts
Posted on 6/10/25 at 8:14 am to
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Like most things related to construction, it's not hard if you know what you're doing. You won't know what you're doing the first time, so you're going to make mistakes. Worst case scenario, you can always put up some wallpaper.


I actually work in the construction “field” just more on the telling people what to do side. Not the doing it myself side. So far any issues that have come up on whatever project we’ve faced, we’ve overcome it.

I’ve found the key here is to know the little tricks to disguise your mistakes. And knowing what mistakes won’t actually show in the finished product.
Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
5816 posts
Posted on 6/10/25 at 8:19 am to
You’ve got the right idea.

Preparation is everything. Having everything on hand will save you frustration. And being patient enough to wait for it to be fully dried before sanding will make it easier.

Applying extra coats and smoothing out the edges will make for a nice finish.

Just take your time.
Posted by tenfoe
Member since Jun 2011
6920 posts
Posted on 6/10/25 at 10:33 am to
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We just bought a house. We are stretched as far as we can possibly go without cutting into emergency stuff which I am not doing. We are a young couple in our first house. I appreciate the advice but paying someone thousands to do this simply isn’t an option. The money to do that does not exist.


We’ve all been there. You are going to purchase $100 worth of tools to do it yourself. It may still be worth it for you to take $50 and whatever meat you can part with from your freezer, and a case of Budweiser to your nearest job site and find a Pedro that wants can knock it out in an hour after he leaves another job site.
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
11882 posts
Posted on 6/10/25 at 5:26 pm to
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The money to do that does not exist.

Been there and fully understand.

I had to finish the sheetrock in my entire house after the flood. I fired the guys my painter(who did not get to paint my house) had sent to float it because it was obvious they had less of a clue than I did. It was messy...my house looked like a cocaine factory had exploded in it by the time I was finished. It took me a long time for what would have taken a decent guy a few days but there were none available at the time.

So watch youtube...get some gear and take your time. Delay the carpet as it's about to get dusty in there.

Lastly...a spray hopper is cheap and HEAVY texture hides a lot. Good thing the wife likes the heavy texture look.
Posted by RougeDawg
Member since Jul 2016
6897 posts
Posted on 6/10/25 at 6:35 pm to
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Tips for floating drywall?


Move to Livingston, start drinking Red Bulls, develop a slight addiction to Kratom, and work with a sheetrock guy for a year.
Posted by Lunchbox48
Member since Feb 2009
931 posts
Posted on 6/10/25 at 10:06 pm to
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already bought a gallon of premixed heavyweight and lightweight USG mud. I have tons of projects to work on including painting the upstairs so if I have to go one day on, one day off for this to dry I can.


If you haven’t opened them, then I would strongly suggest returning them. Mixing a nice smooth batch makes it so much easier and a better finish. I’ve tried to add water to premix and it just doesn’t work. Premix is the consistency of peanut butter and what you need is cake icing. Thicker mud will make even the steadiest hand leave voids and worse bubbles.

Time is your friend with Sheetrock. Hang it, 6” knife with thin thin mud. Next day, thin mud with 9” knife. Third day, thin mud with 12” knife. Fourth day, sand if you have access to a vac with filter, otherwise sponge wipe.

It is a bit of finesse but as previous poster said, just don’t try to go over a spot multiple times while the mud is wet. If you leave a gap just know you can always catch it with the next pass.
Posted by jlovel7
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
22876 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 8:50 am to
So am I sanding 3 times or once when I’m done? I have the 3 taping knifes.

I guess I really do not want to frick around with mixing myself. Am I really fricking myself that bad with premix? Again drying time is not an issue. I’m fine with waiting a day or more between passes.

FYI this is the drywall I have hung so far.






Posted by mtcheral
BR
Member since Oct 2008
2037 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:04 am to
I’ve done a lot of DIY but didn’t do my first drywall until last year on a bathroom we had to redo. Tried the premixed first. Was difficult to work with. Went to mixing myself and made the whole job a lot easier. You can control the consistency and it goes on smoother. It wasn’t bad at all to mix.
Posted by jlovel7
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
22876 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 10:39 am to
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I’ve done a lot of DIY but didn’t do my first drywall until last year on a bathroom we had to redo. Tried the premixed first. Was difficult to work with. Went to mixing myself and made the whole job a lot easier. You can control the consistency and it goes on smoother. It wasn’t bad at all to mix.


Probably will start floating tomorrow after I get the last piece on tonight after golf.

I bought one gallon of lightweight and one gallon of regular premix USG compound. Is there a non mix comparative to those? My understanding is you want heavyweight on the first coat then lightweight on the second and third coat.
Posted by 9rocket
Member since Sep 2020
1470 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 10:41 am to
Ok, here you go.
Buy a bucket of mud with the green lid and a couple of buckets with the blue lid (lightweight). Use the green for the first (taping) coat. Add water to the bucket and mix with a good drill and drywall mixing paddle. You will want this fairly thin, like cake icing as mentioned, or milk shake. Either tape will do for your joints, corner bead for the corners. I prefer the corner bead with the paper already on it. If you don’t use that kind the bare metal will do. No need to screw it into the corners, the mud will hold it. Use a 6” knife to tape with, be sure not to leave any speed bumps on the edges. Thinner is better but you have to have enough to bury the tape. Hit all screwheads.
Before the second coat use the 6” knife to scrape off any ridges left in the mud. Not really any need to sand after the first coat.
Second coat use the blue bucket. Lighter, easier to spread. You will want to mix this with water, a little thinner than the first coat. Use a wider knife spread the mud (again, thinner is better) getting it as smooth as you can. Do not overwork it ! Leave imperfections to be sanded later.
Before the third coat, use a foam sanding block or sanding sponge (we use the foam blocks, mostly).
Third coat is the lightweight mud again. You won’t use as much but you can feather your seams out even further. Use the 12” knife.
Hit the screwheads with mud every time.
After the third coat is your final sanding. This has to be good. Light sanding is better than violent sanding.
I like to make circles with a pencil to mark wherever needs more attention to be sure nothing jumps out at me later.

I always tell customers/clients that floating drywall is NOT where you want to try and save a few bucks. You can get it done cheaply enough and it is labor intensive. Likely a better finished product, also. But if you must, you must.

Nice job on the hanging, by the way. A tight, neat hanging job makes the floating better and a good bit easier. Good luck.
Posted by rltiger
Metairie
Member since Oct 2004
1413 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 11:53 am to
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Why is it not an option?


Floating Sheetrock is a skill. If you don’t know what you are doing and what you are looking at/for, the chance it looks bad is high.

Nothing worse than looking at a wall and seeing the tape lines or poor sanding and floating under the paint.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
8792 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 6:32 pm to


I'd just follow these directions from 9rocket if I were you.

I've taped a bunch and this is very close to what I do (although I'm pretty good just using the green bucket mud and continually mixing more water to get the final polishing coat).

If you're having trouble getting the final coat smooth, you can just take your watered down mixture --like a really thick milkshake -- and apply it in 3 or so foot sections with a paint tray and roller and use your large knife to smooth by removing it.

Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
59172 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 8:41 am to
Man I really understand limited funds as a young couple, but just remember you are looking at it every day. Some good advice was offered earlier, especially not chasing your mistakes. It will get worse. I have done it. I’d sell plasma for a few months to not do it again.
Posted by PureBlood
The Motherland
Member since Oct 2021
4915 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 9:37 am to
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Tips for floating drywall?



Burn the house down...
Posted by 9rocket
Member since Sep 2020
1470 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 1:46 pm to
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Man I really understand limited funds as a young couple, but just remember you are looking at it every day. Some good advice was offered earlier, especially not chasing your mistakes. It will get worse. I have done it. I’d sell plasma for a few months to not do it again.



Exactly. Whenever one of my homeowners wants to some DIY to save money, they invariably want to float their own drywall. I always tell them the same thing “drywall is one of the things you want a pro to do. Don’t try to save on the drywall floating, find something else”.one customer in denham insisted they could do it. It took them over three weeks and still looked bad in some areas. They admitted if they had to do it again they would say frick that. We’ll go with the drywall guy.
Posted by jlovel7
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
22876 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 6:43 pm to














So I have no idea how bad this is. Hoping it is serviceable and any mistakes can be taken care of in sanding and further coats. I did add a splash of water to the premix and it made it much more milkshake like like some posters suggested. Very smooth and easier to work with. I could tell right away out if the box the mix would’ve been a pain in the arse. Glad I laid down a protective layer as I did get drips. Felt like I got the tape on OK but not pleased with the air bubbles. Tried to work them out but didn’t want to just keep scraping the tape and spill all the mud out. Again hoping if I can just spend forever sanding I can work a lot of the kinks out.
This post was edited on 6/12/25 at 6:52 pm
Posted by Trout Bandit
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2012
14507 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 8:49 pm to
I'm not trying to be an arse but all that rippled tape will never look right man.
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