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TifTuf, Tahoma 31, or Tifway 419 Bermuda in Dallas?

Posted on 3/17/24 at 1:23 pm
Posted by Greenie10
Member since Apr 2019
217 posts
Posted on 3/17/24 at 1:23 pm
I'm resodding by backyard after drought and TARR got my St Aug. I nuked the entire yard last Monday with glyphosate and it's yellowing.

The install process seems daunting as a DIY. Approx 1200 sq ft but needs some areas need leveling/ grading too. It's also very compacted. I'm considering hiring out to a sod seller and installer for about $3k. Includes the sod.

The company offers TifTuf, Tahoma 31, and Tifway 419. I'm leaning TifTuf, but don't want to choose wrong either. I want drought tolerant(we're on water restrictions) and low maintenance(mow once a week, lay down pre emergent, post emergent, fert a few times a year.

I know Miller Grass is recommended and I'm not far from them at all, but they don't install.

This place does. LINKhttps://www.dallassodcompany.com/

Can any of the DFW guys chime in?

Posted by Tifway419
Member since Sep 2022
817 posts
Posted on 3/17/24 at 3:24 pm to
Ronk is DFW. Just wanted to say that 1200 sq feet is nothing, and something you should do yourself if you are able and enjoy a little hard work outside.
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
11239 posts
Posted on 3/17/24 at 4:49 pm to
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The install process seems daunting as a DIY. Approx 1200 sq ft


That'd be nothing to lay yourself and probably around $800 for the sod if pricing similar to what I've checked around me.

The prep work might be worth paying the other guy for if he does it right.
Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
6181 posts
Posted on 3/17/24 at 5:40 pm to
Tiftuff is what you’ll want.
Posted by Greenie10
Member since Apr 2019
217 posts
Posted on 3/17/24 at 5:43 pm to
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The prep work might be worth paying the other guy for if he does it right.


Laying the sod would be the easy part. The scraping, tilling, spreading soil etc would be the reason for hiring out. I'd have to rent the equipment (tiller, power rake etc), buy the top soil and I can only get 1yd in my truck safely. Then about 3 pallets of sod, which again, only 1 would probably be able to go in bed of f150. The cost of hiring it out doesn't seem too bad to save me the hassle of renting equipment, transporting equipment, soil, and sod in multiple trips and then doing the actual work.
Posted by Greenie10
Member since Apr 2019
217 posts
Posted on 3/17/24 at 5:45 pm to
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ronk
Tiftuff is what you’ll want.


Great, thanks. Do you know anything about Dallas Sod Company? They seem to have a good price for sod and install at about $3k
Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
6181 posts
Posted on 3/17/24 at 7:22 pm to
Seems pricey to me. 2018 it was $8 a yard for tear off and install. If your square footage is accurate they are charging $22 a yard.
Posted by Greenie10
Member since Apr 2019
217 posts
Posted on 3/17/24 at 9:03 pm to
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Seems pricey to me. 2018 it was $8 a yard for tear off and install. If your square footage is accurate they are charging $22 a yard.


Do you happen to have any recommendations on installers? I'm in North Dallas. I've gotten a few quotes and the $3k was cheapest so far. One was $4900, one was $4125, and one was $3700. These were all landscapers I found recommended on Nextdoor or my neighborhoods FB page.
This post was edited on 3/17/24 at 9:09 pm
Posted by bkhrph
Lake Charles
Member since May 2022
169 posts
Posted on 3/17/24 at 9:23 pm to
Why not consider zoysia? Hybrid bermuda seems like alot of intensive maintenance, from what I’ve read. But I’m sure it’s beautiful turf if you’re willing to put in the work.
Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
6181 posts
Posted on 3/17/24 at 9:36 pm to
If 100% do it myself. It would take 3-4 hours.
Posted by Greenie10
Member since Apr 2019
217 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 6:17 am to
quote:

Why not consider zoysia? Hybrid bermuda seems like alot of intensive maintenance, from what I’ve read


Everything I've read suggests that the Tiftuf Bermuda is relatively easy maintenance. But I know
nothing about grass. Is Zoysia much easier to maintain?
This post was edited on 3/18/24 at 9:22 am
Posted by Greenie10
Member since Apr 2019
217 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 6:25 am to
I was considering it, but the dirt work is what has me thinking about getting a pro. I need to level the yard and grade some of it. By the time I rent a power rake to remove all dead grass, then have a yard or 2 of top soil delivered and have to shovel and rake, then 3 pallets of sod, I feel like it wouldn't be much more to hire out.

Btw, I just google earthed my yard since I found out it has a measuring tool and it's probably closer to 1800 sq ft if you subtract the hardscape and under perimeter trees. It doesn't look that big, but I guess, as you can tell, I'm a novice at all of this.
Posted by WhiskeyThrottle
Weatherford Tx
Member since Nov 2017
5307 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 7:57 am to
I sodded Palisades Zoysia last year. About 20 pallets of it. Unfortunately I still need about 10 more pallets. It took really well. I mowed it about once a week but I was watering the piss out of it since it was the first year. I was cutting it slightly high at 3" all year, but it was the most plush lawn I've ever owned. I applied some SR nitrogen and that was about it last year. It is in full sun with only one cedar tree in one part of the yard for shade.

I'm waiting to see how it comes out of dormancy this year, but hopefully all will be well. I got weed and feed and fertilizer down a little late this year but it's about 45% green as of right now.

I purchased my sod through King Ranch Turf Grass for $250 a pallet (price on their website was $300; had a contractor hookup). Not sure how they stack up against what you're seeing. Think I paid the company that laid it about $1,800 if I recall correctly but I had already done all the dirt work and had the pallets delivered and staged around the yard. They showed up and started throwing squares.
Posted by WhiskeyThrottle
Weatherford Tx
Member since Nov 2017
5307 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 8:10 am to
What does access to your yard look like? 2 yards of dirt delivered should run you maybe $150 give or take $50. The dirt is cheap but the trip charge will cost some amount. You can fit a yard in the bed of a half ton, so if you wanted to take two trips and just wheel barrow it around, you can do that also. Two yards of material takes me about an hour to unload and spread by hand.

If you can get a tractor to the area, you can rent a tractor for $300 roughly and just sit there and scrape the top, then spread the dirt. Tractor work takes an hour or two to get the hang of, but you get it for the full weekend usually if you rent it Friday afternoon and only pay a day or day and a half of the tractor rental. So you're talking about $500 tops for doing it yourself.

If you're not coordinated enough to get the hang of the tractor though, you may be wasting your money. Personally, I look at stuff like this as an opportunity to learn to do something new. Plus you get to play with a tractor for a bit which can be fun.

Did your price include the sod as well?
Posted by Greenie10
Member since Apr 2019
217 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 9:25 am to
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Did your price include the sod as well?


Yes, includes sod as well
Posted by bkhrph
Lake Charles
Member since May 2022
169 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 9:50 am to
I have Empire zoysia in a section of my yard and St. Augustine grass in the other. In the beginning of drought, zoysia is usually the first to brown up (dormancy). But even a little water and it bounces back quickly and completely. St. Aug. is not as fast to brown, but when it browns, a good chunk of it dies.
I would think hybrid Bermuda would be the best at “drought avoidance”. But it’s also gonna need a reel mower for mowing several times a week and more fertilizer (in general; I don’t know the specifics of each variety you mentioned).
Posted by Greenie10
Member since Apr 2019
217 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 6:46 am to
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100% do it myself. It would take 3-4 hours


You've convinced me to do this myself, plus I can save $3k.i do have questions about the process, but it's lengthy. So I'll start a new post.

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