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Posted on 5/18/21 at 10:11 am to
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 5/18/21 at 10:11 am to
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picked my biggest two tomatoes thus far this year


Nice! Those look great!

I finally got my first beefmaster. My scale isn’t as nice as yours, but it’s about 11 oz. There’s plenty of bigger ones still on the plants. These are advertised as crack resistant. And so far they are as advertised. We’ll see how they hold up when it gets hotter.
Posted by WigSplitta22
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Posted on 5/18/21 at 10:42 am to
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For sure. One of my dwarf plants has two broken stems that are attached by like 25% of their original width. The fruits on them are ripening fine.






Good deal. I was a little nervous for a minute
Posted by DarthTiger
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Posted on 5/18/21 at 1:41 pm to
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Posted by Piebald Panther
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Posted on 5/18/21 at 3:36 pm to
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Bonnie plants are fed early on with a hormone that makes growth short and stocky and affects the color of the plant


It's common for commercial greenhouses to use growth regulators. It's almost necessary to make sure the plants don't overgrow too fast. It does also help with chlorophyll production which is why their plants are always so dark green.

I usually start and sell 5,000+ plants a year and I've contemplated using growth regulator. It helps keep the plants in the ideal size for a longer period, so you don't run into leggy plants. I can count on losing 2-300 plants just due to them growing too fast.
This post was edited on 5/18/21 at 3:38 pm
Posted by bluemoons
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Posted on 5/18/21 at 5:00 pm to
That is interesting. I’ve always read that but never heard it first hand. It totally makes sense. My question would be how does it affect the long-term growth of the plants? Do the effects wear off quickly?
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 5/18/21 at 9:51 pm to
The fun has begun.

This is yesterday and today’s pickings.


First canning of the season. Just a small batch of pickles and jalapeños.



Sliced up the beefmasters and had some BLT’s for dinner. They were nice and sweet. Looking forward to many more.


Bonus photo. After a little internet searching I learned that these guys are called Carpenter-Mimic Leaf-Cutter Bees (Megachile xylocopoides). Been only seeing these in my sunflowers. Apparently they store pollen on the underside of their abdomen as opposed to their hind legs.


I also noticed some bumblebees in my eggplant and cucumbers this afternoon. They are most welcome. My honeybees are bringing in a lot of light yellow pollen. Not sure what it is from. Based on a pollen color chart I found, it looks pretty close to sweet corn pollen. Maybe someone has a corn field nearby. I am kinda in the country after all.
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Posted on 5/18/21 at 10:50 pm to
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Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 5/19/21 at 6:55 am to
I plant along a 16' row. It's about a dozen plants.
Posted by bluemoons
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Posted on 5/19/21 at 9:13 am to
Nice! Things are picking up for me too. This is from this morning.

Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 5/19/21 at 10:03 am to
Chuuuuuuu that’s a big a tomato on the right. Is that a LBB?
Posted by No8Easy2
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Posted on 5/19/21 at 10:19 am to
One of my favorite times of the yr, walking out to the garden with a bucket and hauling back groceries!
Those tomatoes looks delicious!
I have some Cherokee purples that are getting close to picking but I like watching em grow

We did the 1st canning run Sunday
Some bread n butter and salsa



Posted by bbvdd
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 5/19/21 at 10:56 am to
We are so far behind up here.

We have had a very cold spring. Planted everything 2 weeks ago. We have only been in the 80s for a single day last weekend. Should be in the 80s the rest of this week. Hoping that will get everything really firing.

Okra and squash are coming along nicely and tomatoes and peppers are blooming.
Posted by bluemoons
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Posted on 5/19/21 at 11:26 am to
I know. It's a pink berkeley tie dye. Biggest one thus far for me. 19.6oz. Kinda goofy looking though. For whatever reason, my pink PBTD tomatoes are coming out kind of yellow. They look cool though.
This post was edited on 5/19/21 at 11:27 am
Posted by Centinel
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Posted on 5/19/21 at 2:34 pm to
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We are so far behind up here.



I feel ya man. I got excited this morning when I saw I finally had some tomatoes setting and these dudes are pulling baskets of veggies in already.
Posted by ABucks11
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Posted on 5/19/21 at 6:57 pm to


I need to start pickling
Posted by FowlGuy
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Posted on 5/19/21 at 9:32 pm to
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whats your pickle recipe if you dont mind sharing?



Posted by FowlGuy
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Posted on 5/19/21 at 9:33 pm to
The ratio of salt/water/vinegar is perfect I use it all the time for all sorts of stuff. I pickled Brussel sprouts last fall with the same brine just added different seasonings. I use the same bring for pickled quail eggs but use different seasonings as well but the brine is a solid base.
Posted by Ldogg123
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Posted on 5/20/21 at 7:42 am to
Anyone have a foolproof method to get rid of aphids? Been a battle since March. I had them under control for a bit, but those little bastards are resilient. Thus far I’ve tried: insecticidal soap, which held them off for a bit, diatomaceous earth which may have helped but doesn’t do me much good with this rain, and sevin which also helped but not as effective as it was for me last year. I’ve used neem before with little luck. I keep up with the garden everyday and try to keep them at bay. With all this rain there’s not much I can do because it’ll wash away as soon as I apply anything. In between rain bands yesterday I checked on the peppers and my cayenne is absolutely covered in them. Worst I’ve ever had them on any plant at one time. Positive note is they don’t seem to like my tomatoes or cucumbers.

Nuke them with some type of insecticide? Burn it and start over?
Posted by bluemoons
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Posted on 5/20/21 at 7:56 am to
I have always had success with a couple apps of neem oil. The neem you used - was it extract? Or 100% cold pressed? Extract won’t work because the primary chemical which kills the aphids (azadirachtin or something) is removed. Maybe try that? Neem has always knocked them out for me. If I had a really bad infestation I would follow up with Bonide eight for residual effects, but that only happened once.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 5/20/21 at 8:02 am to
Like bluemoons, I've always had great success with 100% cold pressed neem oil and castile soap as an emulsifier.

I did some research on aphids a while back and learned that one of the biggest things that attracts them to your plants is excessive nitrogen.
Aphids and Nitrogen
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Nitrogen plays a very important part in a plants growth as well as the content of its sap. Soils with excessively high nitrogen create very fast growing plants. This leads to rapid cell wall growth, which are elongated, thinner and much easier for the piercing mouth-parts of an aphid to penetrate than normal. The plant sap will also be high in nitrogen and will be especially attractive for the aphid. It is very important to understand that high nitrogen sap will be lower in overall sugar content – also known as brix – because nitrogen forms amino acids and proteins – such as chlorophyll – but specifically needs magnesium, phosphorus and carbon to form sugars. This can’t happen if there is excess nitrogen, as there aren’t enough of the other elements to form those sugars. Once the soil is amended with the correct nutrients, the plant will increase the brix/sugar levels and the aphids will die from sucking high sugar content plant sap as it is deadly – aphids can’t digest the sugars with no pancreas and thus die.


I'm not sure how you're fertilizing, but that may be something to evaluate.

ETA: I've been using low dose nitrogen fertilizers all season, and for the first time ever I haven't seen a single aphid on any of the plants in my garden so far.
This post was edited on 5/20/21 at 8:06 am
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