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Starting a lawn care business
Posted on 4/25/19 at 10:28 am
Posted on 4/25/19 at 10:28 am
I've loved lawn care my entire life and although it's hard work it's never been "work" to me. I'm seriously considering starting a lawn care business soon but have a couple questions for those who have knowledge of the subject.
1. How feasible is it to do on my own with no employees? Is it feasible for me to do 25 yards a week? Less? More?
2. Do you make customers sign some form of contract? Or do you work on an "as needed" basis?
Getting the equipment won't be a problem. I'm more concerned about starting it on my own but not being able to complete enough jobs a week in order to make enough profit to pay the bills. I'm not looking to get rich off of it as much as I'd just like to be able to turn it into my full time gig at some point in the next few years or immediately - whichever would be doable. Any advice would be helpful.
TIA
1. How feasible is it to do on my own with no employees? Is it feasible for me to do 25 yards a week? Less? More?
2. Do you make customers sign some form of contract? Or do you work on an "as needed" basis?
Getting the equipment won't be a problem. I'm more concerned about starting it on my own but not being able to complete enough jobs a week in order to make enough profit to pay the bills. I'm not looking to get rich off of it as much as I'd just like to be able to turn it into my full time gig at some point in the next few years or immediately - whichever would be doable. Any advice would be helpful.
TIA
This post was edited on 4/25/19 at 10:29 am
Posted on 4/25/19 at 10:36 am to TDsngumbo
Been in the landscape construction and maintenance arena for a long time. Never owned it myself but I’ve considered it.
Most people that do this are simply cut-blow-go types. They average about 1 yard per hour alone. You could probably get through 10 per day easy on your own time. Maybe 12. Anything over the typical cut blow and go is extra (weeding/hedges/color replacement)
I would be forthright about that with clients. I’d offer a contract/schedule but nothing obligational so they could get out anytime.
The biggest thing is communication. As long as the client knows what to expect and when to expect you, it’s all good. My biggest gripe in pawn guys I’ve had personally do my own house was shitty communication. Saying you would show up then not. Not telling me when you were coming if we had a set day. Not telling me when I was rescheduled for if rain delayed. Or simply doing a shitty job, like blowing the grass clippings onto my neighbor’s driveway and leaving them.
Average yard is about $40 that you can do in an hour. You can earn about $2400 per week more or less. I hold also tell them cash/check paid upon services rendered. Even set up a Venmo or PayPal. Don’t cheat yourself and be firm with your prices. Baseline imo for a common residential house is $40. Larger houses probably have to base it on hourly. If it’s a 2-3 hour job, probably err closer to $100 per visit
Small commercial jobs is a good avenue to get in. Easy cut and clean up and minimal bitching from the client
Most people that do this are simply cut-blow-go types. They average about 1 yard per hour alone. You could probably get through 10 per day easy on your own time. Maybe 12. Anything over the typical cut blow and go is extra (weeding/hedges/color replacement)
I would be forthright about that with clients. I’d offer a contract/schedule but nothing obligational so they could get out anytime.
The biggest thing is communication. As long as the client knows what to expect and when to expect you, it’s all good. My biggest gripe in pawn guys I’ve had personally do my own house was shitty communication. Saying you would show up then not. Not telling me when you were coming if we had a set day. Not telling me when I was rescheduled for if rain delayed. Or simply doing a shitty job, like blowing the grass clippings onto my neighbor’s driveway and leaving them.
Average yard is about $40 that you can do in an hour. You can earn about $2400 per week more or less. I hold also tell them cash/check paid upon services rendered. Even set up a Venmo or PayPal. Don’t cheat yourself and be firm with your prices. Baseline imo for a common residential house is $40. Larger houses probably have to base it on hourly. If it’s a 2-3 hour job, probably err closer to $100 per visit
Small commercial jobs is a good avenue to get in. Easy cut and clean up and minimal bitching from the client
This post was edited on 4/25/19 at 10:40 am
Posted on 4/25/19 at 10:38 am to TDsngumbo
I'm on this journey myself. Already kinda been starting on the side, looking at buying a riding mower this week so I can start tackling bigger jobs. I really want to do land clearing and tree removal, but I reckon I gotta start in the area I can
Posted on 4/25/19 at 10:40 am to Geauxld Finger
Great info, and thank you!
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also tell them cash/check paid upon services rendered. Even set up a Venmo or PayPal.
Is there a way for me to pull my pay out of their account via Venmo or PayPal or would I only send an invoice asking for their payment after completing the services? I'm sure in most cases the homeowner won't be home when I am there. I'm sorry if that's a stupid question - I just don't have any experience with either Venmo or PayPal. I'm sure it's very easy to use but I just haven't used it before.
This post was edited on 4/25/19 at 10:41 am
Posted on 4/25/19 at 10:41 am to TDsngumbo
only thing I'm really concerned about is making money in the winter.. but I reckon I can figure out some way to make money during that time
Posted on 4/25/19 at 10:42 am to AU_251
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only thing I'm really concerned about is making money in the winter
Pressure washing, baw.
Posted on 4/25/19 at 10:43 am to TDsngumbo
I would t set up any type of automatic draft or anything. Maybe if the jobs got bigger and the company grew. All you do is send a payment request. It just informs them of what they owe you. That way you don’t have to waste money doing invoices etc.
If people want paper receipts I’d get one of those receipt books and manually write it. Just don’t forget to add on the additional services. Trimming hedges additional $20. Pulling weeds in front bed additional $20 etc.
The jobs slow in the winter for sure but you can do pressure washing, leaf and debris clean up, Christmas decoration installation, or small landscape installations
If people want paper receipts I’d get one of those receipt books and manually write it. Just don’t forget to add on the additional services. Trimming hedges additional $20. Pulling weeds in front bed additional $20 etc.
The jobs slow in the winter for sure but you can do pressure washing, leaf and debris clean up, Christmas decoration installation, or small landscape installations
This post was edited on 4/25/19 at 10:44 am
Posted on 4/25/19 at 10:44 am to TDsngumbo
You're going to get stung so many times.
Posted on 4/25/19 at 10:45 am to TDsngumbo
1. Price will only be dictated by your operating costs, your operational capacity, etc. Figure them out, don’t let the market dictate your rates or you may lose your arse quick. Know that there are plenty of low ballers that enter and leave the market quickly.
2. Plan on 35ish weeks of mowing per year.
2. Plan on 35ish weeks of mowing per year.
Posted on 4/25/19 at 10:48 am to AlxTgr
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You're going to get stung so many times.
I was waiting on you to come in here with a comment like that. I'll be sure to have an epipen on hand just in case
Posted on 4/25/19 at 10:49 am to TDsngumbo
Yea that's a good idea I've seen discussed a lot. Probably going to try including that with the yards I do.
I have been watching lots of videos on youtube on lawncare and tree work. Don't undervalue yourself. Know your worth. My gf's dad has been in the game his entire life and says always try to be making at least 45/hr so that's what I'ma go by
I have been watching lots of videos on youtube on lawncare and tree work. Don't undervalue yourself. Know your worth. My gf's dad has been in the game his entire life and says always try to be making at least 45/hr so that's what I'ma go by
Posted on 4/25/19 at 10:51 am to jimbeam
For sure and you typically get what you pay for.
Figure in gas, equipment fuel, equipment maintenance, supplies, vehicle maintenance, a trailer, LIABILITY INSURANCE. Also will you need to incorporate and LLC. How much of this income will be getting reported etc
marketing material (a few shirts and business cards). Advertise on Facebook and Instagram. Seriously most people get their referrals on there now.
Figure in gas, equipment fuel, equipment maintenance, supplies, vehicle maintenance, a trailer, LIABILITY INSURANCE. Also will you need to incorporate and LLC. How much of this income will be getting reported etc
marketing material (a few shirts and business cards). Advertise on Facebook and Instagram. Seriously most people get their referrals on there now.
Posted on 4/25/19 at 10:53 am to Geauxld Finger
What about mass postcard mailings across my area? I'm thinking about a 1% success rate with that but do you think it would be worth it?
Posted on 4/25/19 at 10:54 am to TDsngumbo
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. How feasible is it to do on my own with no employees? Is it feasible for me to do 25 yards a week? Less? More?
Depending on the size and how close they are. If you can get several in one subdivision, that is key.
As far as contract, I never did. Some do. It's also a good idea to get them on a monthly payment plan, that way you still get cash flow in the winter. Add in a mulching/shrub trimming in the fall to help sell the monthly payments.
Posted on 4/25/19 at 10:56 am to LittleJerrySeinfield
That’s true but starting out that’s a lot to throw at someone. Most people looking for seasonal re mulching likely contract with a larger service.
Posted on 4/25/19 at 11:08 am to AU_251
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only thing I'm really concerned about is making money in the winter.. but I reckon I can figure out some way to make money during that time
A good friend of mine was in that business for many years before finally retiring. He got into commercial accounts: Apartment complexes, banks, fast food joints, etc. and besides cutting and landscaping, he branched off into pressure washing, especially with businesses that have drive-thru like banks and fast food joints.
That helped carry him over in the winter months when grass doesn't need cutting as often.
He also got a couple big vacuum rigs to remove leaves when winter hit from parking lots, street curbs and sidewalks and that brought in money in the fall/winter.
Posted on 4/25/19 at 11:55 am to gumbo2176
Can also add pre-season prep work like dethatching, aerating, and fertilizer spreading. Keep an eye on local classifieds for used commercial equipment. The local Home Depot has/had a nice heavy-duty plug-type aerator for sale for under $800 from their rental fleet. I passed the info on to a guy who's building his lawn care business too.
Posted on 4/25/19 at 12:00 pm to AU_251
quote:You're welcome to practice at my house
I really want to do land clearing and tree removal
Posted on 4/25/19 at 12:14 pm to TDsngumbo
In addition to PayPal or Venmo, Quickbooks should also allow you to invoice directly. That’s how I paid my last lawn guy.
Lots of people look into starting a lawn service company. I’d think you’d have to start small on the side and develop a customer base and referrals. Then expand and become full time.
Lots of people look into starting a lawn service company. I’d think you’d have to start small on the side and develop a customer base and referrals. Then expand and become full time.
Posted on 4/25/19 at 12:19 pm to TDsngumbo
Make sure you are properly licensed as wel
You’ll need a license to do landscaping, pesticide application, fertilizer, etc
You’ll need a license to do landscaping, pesticide application, fertilizer, etc
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