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re: Starting a lawn care business

Posted on 4/25/19 at 12:23 pm to
Posted by AU_251
Your dads room
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 12:23 pm to
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I’d think you’d have to start small on the side and develop a customer base and referrals. Then expand and become full time.


this is where I am. Going to give a couple estimates this weekend, while still working my FT office job. I LOATHE my office job with a passion of a thousand suns, so as soon as I am comfortable with my customer base, i'm outta here
Posted by TDsngumbo
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 12:24 pm to
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You’ll need a license to do landscaping, pesticide application, fertilizer, etc

But not for general cutting, edging, and blowing, correct?
Posted by AU_251
Your dads room
Member since Feb 2013
11559 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 12:37 pm to
where you located TDs?
Posted by TDsngumbo
Alpha Silverfox
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41536 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 12:40 pm to
Geismar, LA
Posted by AU_251
Your dads room
Member since Feb 2013
11559 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 12:41 pm to
also... what do you think is my better option?

Buy a 400$ Yard Machine now off FB and cut yards with it for a while

OR

Go finance a commercial grade zero turn
Posted by Geauxld Finger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
31676 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 1:13 pm to
You don’t need a license to cut grass.

Just don’t advertise yourself as a “landscape contractor” or offer and pesticide/herbicide applications. You absolutely
Need license for those. If someone wants you to plant a few shrubs and seasonal color, you can obviously Do it. Just don’t use “landscape construction or installation” in your marketing
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 1:28 pm to
Posted by kadillak
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 2:35 pm to
If you don't want to do much on the marketing end, maybe look into joining Block Lawn Care if you are in the BR area. I don't know much about specifics, but it's a new startup I read about that operates like Uber/Waitr/etc. I guess you just accept requests in a queue when you have free time? Their website
Posted by AU_251
Your dads room
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 2:35 pm to
this sounds awful and I hope it doesn't take off
Posted by LittleJerrySeinfield
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 3:11 pm to
Honestly, I'd look into the weed control/fertilization side of lawn maintenance. Huge margins, especially for a one man show. You do need license/certifications for that, but they're not hard to get.
Posted by FishinTygah84
LA
Member since Dec 2013
1976 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 4:21 pm to
I cut grass for a guy for about 10 years. I ultimately graduated HS back in the day and figured college wasnt for me. I started working for him to see if it was what i wanted to do. I worked for him for years. He was a good guy to work for. After a few years of that, i decided it wasnt for me, at least not running the show. I enrolled in college part time while still working for him full time and finished after 5 years. I will say this and you will think you'll be different, but cutting grass from sun up to sun down in july and and august is BRUTAL. It is going to take you a while to get seasoned to it. That's a fact. Also, don't spend everything you make. You will get paid A TON of cash. It will be easy to spend it quickly, but if you are in geismar, you've witnessed the stupid amount of rain we've had the last few months. You have save for a literal rainy day. Also, look into other things like people have mentioned: pressure washing, leaf removal, flower bed maintenance, etc. Don't be solely dependent on grass. (i know you mentioned you'd still have your office job). I don't mean to insult you, but assuming you do a really good job of cutting grass, you could go after a niche market and do well. Charge 50-55 a cut but i mean it has to be top notch. Clean turns with the ZTR, nice edge lines, no clippings left behind in the driveway edging, etc. It would take you 15 more minutes to do a great job and make 10-15 more dollars per cut. Also, ,try to map your customers out where you aren't on the road very much. My boss did this and as the guy who did most of the edging and weedeating, i hated it because it meant less of a break but for him, i get why he did it. Also, i know it will be tempting to do, but try not to cut in the same pattern every time. You will start to leave tire tracks in the yard. There are 100 other little nuances i could state, but i'm just tired of typing and i know this will get the "TL:DR" response.
This post was edited on 4/25/19 at 4:22 pm
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
9776 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 4:33 pm to
also... what do you think is my better option?

Buy a 400$ Yard Machine now off FB and cut yards with it for a while

OR

Go finance a commercial grade zero turn
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Start small and upgrade equipment as cash flow permits.
Posted by The Korean
Denham Springs, LA
Member since May 2008
1612 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 4:34 pm to
As someone said. Communication is the key. During the off season if the guy I used would have called and offered some other services or even a winter cutting to clean things up I would have taken it. I just wasn’t going to go through the effort to call him. Offer a referral incentive if a customer helps to find a neighbor.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Alpha Silverfox
Member since Oct 2011
41536 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 4:48 pm to
quote:

I cut grass for a guy for about 10 years. I ultimately graduated HS back in the day and figured college wasnt for me. I started working for him to see if it was what i wanted to do. I worked for him for years. He was a good guy to work for. After a few years of that, i decided it wasnt for me, at least not running the show. I enrolled in college part time while still working for him full time and finished after 5 years. I will say this and you will think you'll be different, but cutting grass from sun up to sun down in july and and august is BRUTAL. It is going to take you a while to get seasoned to it. That's a fact. Also, don't spend everything you make. You will get paid A TON of cash. It will be easy to spend it quickly, but if you are in geismar, you've witnessed the stupid amount of rain we've had the last few months. You have save for a literal rainy day. Also, look into other things like people have mentioned: pressure washing, leaf removal, flower bed maintenance, etc. Don't be solely dependent on grass. (i know you mentioned you'd still have your office job). I don't mean to insult you, but assuming you do a really good job of cutting grass, you could go after a niche market and do well. Charge 50-55 a cut but i mean it has to be top notch. Clean turns with the ZTR, nice edge lines, no clippings left behind in the driveway edging, etc. It would take you 15 more minutes to do a great job and make 10-15 more dollars per cut. Also, ,try to map your customers out where you aren't on the road very much. My boss did this and as the guy who did most of the edging and weedeating, i hated it because it meant less of a break but for him, i get why he did it. Also, i know it will be tempting to do, but try not to cut in the same pattern every time. You will start to leave tire tracks in the yard. There are 100 other little nuances i could state, but i'm just tired of typing and i know this will get the "TL:DR" response.



Very good information and literally the only thing you said that I haven't considered already is the thing about not cutting in the same pattern each time. Good info.

Thanks!
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 4:53 pm to
Yep. There’s the fastest way and then the best way, that will get and keep good clients willing to pay extra for quality.
Posted by slinger1317
Northshore
Member since Sep 2005
5805 posts
Posted on 4/26/19 at 6:51 am to
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Is there a way for me to pull my pay out of their account via Venmo or PayPal or would I only send an invoice asking for their payment after completing the services? I'm sure in most cases the homeowner won't be home when I am there.


I pay my lawn guy with Venmo. He sends me a text when he's done and I send him payment through Venmo. I don't get an invoice from him but I believe Venmo does offer pay requests.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Alpha Silverfox
Member since Oct 2011
41536 posts
Posted on 4/26/19 at 8:27 am to
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He sends me a text when he's done and I send him payment

Does he text you a pic of your yard or something?
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56204 posts
Posted on 4/26/19 at 9:11 am to
Here are my thoughts.

My lawn guy had a garage opener to my back yard. He is someone I trusted to be tooling around the backyard while my wife and kids are home by themselves. My wife would come to the back and pay him and visit. When we are out in town and see him we catch up.

I say that to say that this is the niche. Be the trustworthy community guy that gets away with charging more because he is trusted. Dress well, if you have a helper make sure he is presentable. Get enough contract work at stores, restaurants, =offices to get some monthly income. Find a gated subdivision and take over every lawn that you can. Approach the HOA presidents, offer to take care of their common areas for discounted rates to be present in the more posh areas.

Look at getting your chemical application license. That could be a HUGE value add for a homeowner.

Accurately bill/invoice/provide receipts.....
This post was edited on 4/26/19 at 9:12 am
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81604 posts
Posted on 4/26/19 at 9:36 am to
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Geismar, LA

I was just there at a boil.
Posted by slinger1317
Northshore
Member since Sep 2005
5805 posts
Posted on 4/26/19 at 10:50 am to
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Does he text you a pic of your yard or something?


He did at the beginning but I've been using him 2 years and now I trust him. Like Tigerfoot said, be presentable, dress well and communicate. Sadly in today's world that puts you ahead of 80% of the yahoos out there.
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