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Recommendations for whole home generator?

Posted on 7/6/23 at 12:43 pm
Posted by Enadious
formerly B5Lurker City of Central
Member since Aug 2004
17689 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 12:43 pm
The wife decided last night it was time for backup generator. I live in baton rouge. Any recommendations for brand and company would be much appreciated.
My house is about 2250 and a/c is 5 ton. Not looking to cheap out but I don't want to be robbed blind. Gas and and electric connections are right where I'd put the unit.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78003 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 12:53 pm to
4 or 5 of my neighbors have generacs and while the cost can be 5-10k for setup, the couple of times we've had power out i've been jealous as hell.

it kicks on within minutes and b/c its running on NG, there's literally no limit to how long your house can be run.

pretty sweet setup.
Posted by Enadious
formerly B5Lurker City of Central
Member since Aug 2004
17689 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 1:00 pm to
quote:

4 or 5 of my neighbors have generacs and while the cost can be 5-10k for setup, the couple of times we've had power out i've been jealous as hell.

Yeah. Back in 2020 I could have had one installed for 8k. Wife didn't want to invest because she knew we'd be moving 10 years or so from now. So I spent 3k on a portable. She's had a stroke since then and can't operate the portable.
Posted by PerceivedReality
South Cakkalakki
Member since Apr 2013
1057 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 1:15 pm to
go w/ Generac for residential. they used to be shite but are now one of the most reliable. we have generac at our home fwiw.
call your local generac dealer and have them come look at your loads and they will size what you need. you can load shed what you don't want to run.
i live in the electrical world and deal w/ generator back up power a good bit. most of our commercial customers are now transitioning to generac. in the past it was always CAT and kohler.

fwiw, i dont sell generators, just install what the client goes with.
Posted by Enadious
formerly B5Lurker City of Central
Member since Aug 2004
17689 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 1:38 pm to
quote:

go w/ Generac for residential. they used to be shite but are now one of the most reliable. we have generac at our home fwiw.

Yeah, I have heard some Generac horror stories in the past. Good to know. Thanks!
Posted by 385 Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
244 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 1:44 pm to
I went down a rabbit hole last year researching this. I ultimately went with a Generac 32kw liquid cooled unit. It was installed and serviced by Optimize EGS, which is located here in BR. The unit is fantastic, appears to be well built, and Optimize was a pleasure to deal with. I probably could have saved a few bucks and gone with the 27kw liquid cooled, but at this point, I didn't want to be running around worrying about overloading the unit and I didn't want to deal with under-supplying my two AC units, multiple fridges, dryer, oven, etc. It's also quieter than air cooled units and performs better in our climate. I'm very happy.

Generac always has specials, so they included a 10 year warranty on the unit. There was also minimal wait time. It was installed within 45 days of signing the agreement.
This post was edited on 7/6/23 at 1:45 pm
Posted by rltiger
Metairie
Member since Oct 2004
836 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 1:56 pm to
Find an electrician who will install.
Get a plumber to run a gas line.
Build a platform to get it up off the ground or make/pour a foundation for it to sit on.
order generator from below.

Generators
Posted by 385 Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
244 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 2:04 pm to
That's what I wanted to do originally. If you are confident in your ability to deal with electrical and plumbing issues, generators are not a big deal. I suspect, however, that OP will run into the same issue I did: he lives in BR. That being the case, if you have to upgrade your gas service or pull your meter, you are going to have to involve the gas company (and somewhat less critically) Entergy. The upgraded gas meter will not get installed absent a sign off from the permit office. Apparently, BR has really tightened the regulations on setoff requirements for generators in the last few years. Accordingly, I ultimately decided that I was willing to pay for someone else to deal with that because I did not want to be in a situation where I paid for all this equipment and labor and have the permit office deny me based on where I sited the unit.

This post was edited on 7/6/23 at 2:06 pm
Posted by tigers win2
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
3837 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 3:36 pm to
I used GenPro. They handled all of the details and coordination. Entergy quickly approved gas hook up saying they don’t even have to check behind GenPro because they always do it perfectly.

It has been installed 5 months now and no problems at all. It has supplied power on two occasions due to outages.

I went with a Kohler water cooled.
This post was edited on 7/6/23 at 3:41 pm
Posted by prestigeworldwide
Member since May 2018
295 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 3:38 pm to
Replaced our Generac with a Cummins 40kW last year. Much quieter and uses less natural gas. Also had a 500 gallon tank added to our 250 tank so we're good to go.
Posted by Enadious
formerly B5Lurker City of Central
Member since Aug 2004
17689 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 3:55 pm to
quote:

I went with a Kohler water cooled

Do you mind telling me what you paid and size?
This post was edited on 7/6/23 at 3:56 pm
Posted by tigers win2
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
3837 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 4:21 pm to
37kw. $29k I added whole home surge protector and also running extra power feed and box so I could add a pool chiller.
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
5508 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 4:32 pm to
We just paid $27k in Covington for a 25kw Cummins installed for my mom. The install labor was high because the power run was pretty lengthy and there were some obstacles we had to get through.

I paid about $22k for a 30kw Cummins last September, but it was on a new construction so we were able to easily plan for it. I've learned that sometimes retrofitting can be a lot more expensive.
Posted by Enadious
formerly B5Lurker City of Central
Member since Aug 2004
17689 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 4:35 pm to
Thanks for all the input!
Posted by ellunchboxo
Gtown
Member since Feb 2009
18789 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 4:58 pm to
quote:

they used to be shite


I don’t know how long ago but mine is 6 years old (22KW air cooled) and I haven’t had any problems with it. Nor anybody I know with one.

Damn thing ran for 6 straight days during Ida and never checked up.
Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
15768 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 5:09 pm to
quote:

I don’t know how long ago but mine is 6 years old (22KW air cooled) and I haven’t had any problems with it. Nor anybody I know with one. Damn thing ran for 6 straight days during Ida and never checked up.


I’ve got a 24kw Generac air cooled and it ran for several days during ida. I’ve got 2 freezers, 1 big fridge, 3 mini fridges and a kegerator. Only thing I remember doing was Turing off my 3rd AC unit for my bonus room. I think I even forgot to shut off my chiller for my pool
Posted by 385 Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
244 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 5:26 pm to
My 32kw liquid cooled was $23k ish. But they knocked $1k off of it because I poured my own slab. That included about 80 feet of gas piping, which they ran down the side of my house through the attic. They also did interest free financing for 18 months, so it was nice to let inflation take a bit more off the price.

I recommend having them install a whole-home disconnect between the meter and the ATS. The disconnect runs about $200ish, and it's not a big deal to install it when they are doing everything else. It's nice because when/if you need to do additional work, you don't have to deal with having the meter pulled.
Posted by Finnish
Member since Nov 2021
423 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 8:09 pm to
I installed a 20kW air cooled Kohler in Oct 2022 for $16k.

They had to trench ~60’ for gas and electric.

20kW is more than enough for my 3400 sq ft house. I have a 3 ton and 2 ton. I put soft starts on my condensers to put less strain on the generator when they start up. I tried to overload the unit when we installed and it never got above 50% capacity.

I had picked out a Kohler liquid cooled in 2021. But by 2022 it went from $8k to $12k just for the unit, so I went air cooled. I got a 10yr warranty on it.
This post was edited on 7/6/23 at 8:10 pm
Posted by dlmast87
Amish Country
Member since Dec 2007
1941 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 8:59 pm to
We just had a NG 20kw Kohler installed last November. Our house is about 2800 square ft and the ac is a similar size. The connections are right by the unit and we spent 12k all in. Turns on within 10 seconds of the power going out. It's great.
Posted by LSUlefty
Youngsville, LA
Member since Dec 2007
26446 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 9:22 pm to
22kw Generac by Optimize EGS in the Lafayette area. Zero issues.
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