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Range vs. Rangetop + Wall Ovens

Posted on 5/10/26 at 7:56 am
Posted by Will Cover
Davidson, NC
Member since Mar 2007
40295 posts
Posted on 5/10/26 at 7:56 am
I’m currently stuck trying to finalize my kitchen layout and could really use some outside perspective. I’m torn between a standard 48-inch duel-fuel range or doing a 48-inch rangetop in the kitchen with two electric wall ovens located in my scullery.

The interesting thing is that the rangetop and wall oven combo is actually looking to be about $1,500 to $3,000 cheaper than the full range for the brands I’m looking at. I’m specifically eyeing French door or side-swing ovens from brands like BlueStar, Thermador, and GE Monogram. I love the look and ease of the French doors, though I’m a little nervous about Monogram’s reliability compared to the others. For the rangetop, I’m considering Wolf, Thermador, BlueStar, and Miele.

I’ve pretty much decided on a 6-burner setup without a built-in griddle since I’d rather just buy a griddle accessory and have the extra burners when I need them. I’m also skipping the built-in microwave entirely and just planning to put a small countertop one in the pantry since I rarely use it.

One thing I’m really interested in is the steam feature found in some of these ovens. I think it would be great for reheating food and baking bread, so that's a factor.

My main hesitation with a traditional range is the ergonomics. Most of the time it’s just me and my kids, but I’m trying to plan for 20 or 30 years down the road. I feel like having ovens at chest height in the scullery will be a lot easier on my back as I get older compared to bending over a low range.

Also, if anyone has thoughts on the reliability of the Monogram French door ovens versus BlueStar or Thermador, I’d love to hear them. And lastly, if anyone has a recommendation for a blower/vent hood system -- something that is often overlooked, please let me know.

Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
49951 posts
Posted on 5/10/26 at 9:31 am to
we deleted a pair of electric wall ovens and a standalone cooktop for a new 36” gas range with 6 open burners and a single oven below. The oven door hinges down.

It is so much better it pains me that we didn’t do it earlier. The oven will fit two sheet pans side by side so we have not had an issue thus far with missing the second oven. I did consider a 48” unit with two oven chambers but it would have been too much and too big for the spot.

blue star is what we got and it’s flat out awesome. Get the open burners. As you noted the price difference between 36 and 48 is substantial. We are older than you are, the crouching for the oven is not at all an issue

Go to campos and look at the blue star ranges
Posted by Tree_Fall
Member since Mar 2021
1291 posts
Posted on 5/10/26 at 9:59 am to
I'm quite happy with counter-top gas burners and built-in electric oven. The first is 20 years old and the other 40. I've replaced oven elements twice...very simple. Counters have more storage than a range. Only tricky part about the counter-top is assuring the counter is level. I don't have but have used a french-door Thermador oven with ball-bearing racks. It's a joy to use. Not having to struggle with hot things with a fold-down door in the way is great. You do, however, have 4 hinges and 2 gaskets to worry about.
Posted by Will Cover
Davidson, NC
Member since Mar 2007
40295 posts
Posted on 5/10/26 at 10:19 am to
Always appreciate your feedback. I reached out to Campo’s on Saturday and am waiting a return phone call. I am considering them along with Ferguson (one stop shop). Pricing and service will play a big role with my decision, which may eliminate Ferguson because of service after the sale.
Posted by Will Cover
Davidson, NC
Member since Mar 2007
40295 posts
Posted on 5/10/26 at 10:21 am to
If I decide on going with a wall oven, I certainly will go French Door. To be able to actually get closer inside the oven to deep clean it makes a difference to me. That alone, is worth it, plus I like the look.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
16844 posts
Posted on 5/10/26 at 10:59 am to
quote:

steam feature

Or you could put a pan of water in the oven with the bread.

Here is your only needed griddle accessory:
Posted by dillpickleLSU
Philadelphia, PA
Member since Oct 2005
26529 posts
Posted on 5/10/26 at 4:27 pm to
I have a steam feature and never used it. We bought a new house when we moved back and the one feature we hate is the sink in the island. If you have room don’t put the sink in the island. Are you GCing yourself or do you have a GC?
Posted by KajunLass
Member since Apr 2022
560 posts
Posted on 5/10/26 at 7:45 pm to
For our new build, I got the Thermador with the 48 Inch Wide slide in gas range with 6 burners and griddle. There are 2 ovens - one larger than the other. I love it!
Posted by Will Cover
Davidson, NC
Member since Mar 2007
40295 posts
Posted on 5/10/26 at 8:04 pm to
I selected a GC, and after doing my own due diligence, I feel really good about the person I chose. He came highly recommended by one of his subcontractors, and I’ve seen his work firsthand at a couple of homes he built. I also had the chance to meet with homeowners living in one of his homes, which gave me even more confidence in my decision.

quote:

you have room don’t put the sink in the island.


I actually designed my kitchen with the sink in the island intentionally. I'm not one to leave a dirty dish in the sink, and I don't let things pile up either, even when I am cooking. I know this placement may not be for everyone, but it will be new for me.



Rough draft of my plans, tweaking is still taking place.
Posted by Will Cover
Davidson, NC
Member since Mar 2007
40295 posts
Posted on 5/10/26 at 8:07 pm to
quote:

For our new build, I got the Thermador with the 48 Inch Wide slide in gas range with 6 burners and griddle. There are 2 ovens - one larger than the other. I love it!


From a simplicity perspective, this is the cleanest and easiest setup (range). If I go in this direction, my top 3 brands are Wolf, Thermador, and Bluestar (in no particular order).
This post was edited on 5/10/26 at 8:08 pm
Posted by dillpickleLSU
Philadelphia, PA
Member since Oct 2005
26529 posts
Posted on 5/10/26 at 8:18 pm to
The layout with the sink/dw backing up to the cooktop creates a traffic jam…I’d move the sink, our house is laid out like that.
Posted by Will Cover
Davidson, NC
Member since Mar 2007
40295 posts
Posted on 5/10/26 at 8:25 pm to
quote:


The layout with the sink/dw backing up to the cooktop creates a traffic jam


It's mostly just me, and my kids every other week. I'll have 48-inches between my island and range/range top, but I do realize this will be decreased if the dishwasher is open. I appreciate your input and will give this some thought.
Posted by Maillard
BTR
Member since Jul 2021
395 posts
Posted on 5/10/26 at 8:28 pm to
Is that your refrigerator next to your scullery?
Posted by dillpickleLSU
Philadelphia, PA
Member since Oct 2005
26529 posts
Posted on 5/10/26 at 8:28 pm to
I’ll send my dog over, he’ll make sure you trip over him and the open dishwasher at the same time and you’ll be like damn sink shouldn’t be in the island LOL
Posted by Will Cover
Davidson, NC
Member since Mar 2007
40295 posts
Posted on 5/10/26 at 8:31 pm to
quote:


I’ll send my dog over, he’ll make sure you trip over him and the open dishwasher at the same time and you’ll be like damn sink shouldn’t be in the island LOL


I've got 3 of my own!!!

Posted by dillpickleLSU
Philadelphia, PA
Member since Oct 2005
26529 posts
Posted on 5/10/26 at 8:32 pm to
I have 48 inches as well it’s not enough

Posted by dillpickleLSU
Philadelphia, PA
Member since Oct 2005
26529 posts
Posted on 5/10/26 at 8:33 pm to
Posted by dillpickleLSU
Philadelphia, PA
Member since Oct 2005
26529 posts
Posted on 5/10/26 at 8:41 pm to
If you have any way to not put the dishwasher in the island that could make it better. They make a dishwasher, I forget the brand but it can direct connect to a drain line with no air gap. When I remodeled my wife’s cousins kitchen his dishwasher wasn’t adjacent and he just so happened to have that exact dishwasher, it has a built in check valve and you pop a hole in a membrane in the side and it vents it….it was a Miele
This post was edited on 5/10/26 at 8:43 pm
Posted by Will Cover
Davidson, NC
Member since Mar 2007
40295 posts
Posted on 5/10/26 at 9:06 pm to
Miele makes fantastic appliances. I will look into this. Appreciate the suggestions!
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
29892 posts
Posted on 5/11/26 at 12:27 pm to
I did the LG cooktop and LG double wall oven with the top oven also functioning as a microwave.

The speed cook feature on the top has a very steep learning curve but after perfecting it, you can cut cooking time on large items by more than half.

I will never go back to a stand alone unless it's in a camp
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