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PSA- Use fresh gas
Posted on 3/18/24 at 7:52 am
Posted on 3/18/24 at 7:52 am
I left old gas in my edgers from last Fall and they would not start to save my life. Put in some fresh Ethanol free gas with a cap full of sea foam and both started on the first try.
Use Fresh Gas….. Do not be dumb like me.
Use Fresh Gas….. Do not be dumb like me.
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Posted on 3/18/24 at 8:03 am to SauceBawse
How many tanks do you run through your edger a year? Might look at using TrueFuel in it. I run maybe 2 tanks through my weedeater ever year (I need to go electric) and I've never had a problem. I started it for the first time last week and it ran fine with fuel that'd been in it since October.
Posted on 3/18/24 at 8:04 am to SauceBawse
Same, mine started on the third crank.
Sta bil, 93 octane Conoco or Marathon Gas, and Synthetic oil.
Sta bil, 93 octane Conoco or Marathon Gas, and Synthetic oil.
Posted on 3/18/24 at 9:01 am to SauceBawse
I'm still using an echo trimmier that I bought in 2003. The only thing that I have ever used in it is regular gas. Fresh gas is somewhat important. Ethanol free is not. You shouldn't leave any type of gas, especially gas with 2-stroke oil mixed in, sitting in an edger or other gas-powered tool for months.
Posted on 3/18/24 at 9:10 am to Loup
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Might look at using TrueFuel in it.
Check the octane rating of your weedeater before going this route. I was using Trufuel for a while, but my weedeater is rated for 87 octane. Trufuel is 92 if I remember correctly. I went back to regular 87 octane ethanol free gas premixed at 50:1 and my weedeater ran a thousand times better after that.
Posted on 3/18/24 at 9:51 am to Loup
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TrueFuel
I thought about this but just can buy that small bottle of gas’s for $20
Posted on 3/18/24 at 10:12 am to PenguinPubes
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TrueFuel
I thought about this but just can buy that small bottle of gas’s for $20
I can usually get a whole summer out of a can between my weedeater and blower. They're both going on 8 years old and I've had zero issues with them. Ive always felt like it was worth it
Posted on 3/18/24 at 10:37 am to PillageUrVillage
A higher octane in an engine rated for a lower octane shouldn't negatively impact its performance. Lower octane in a higher octane / compression engine is what will have negative effects. Curious as to how you saw a positive difference going back to 87.
Posted on 3/18/24 at 10:47 am to Loup
2-3 tanks. Tru fuel is what I tried this time.
Posted on 3/18/24 at 10:52 am to TheBoo
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A higher octane in an engine rated for a lower octane shouldn't negatively impact its performance. Lower octane in a higher octane / compression engine is what will have negative effects. Curious as to how you saw a positive difference going back to 87.
That was always my understanding as well. But it never seemed to run right with the Trufuel. It wouldn't get up to full RPM's and would bog down easier. Ran like a top on 87. I assumed it didn't have enough compression to fully burn the higher octane Trufuel, but I really don't know.
Posted on 3/18/24 at 11:12 am to SauceBawse
Fresh gas, don’t use cheap two stroke additives. Use the echo brand.
I use premium gas.
I use premium gas.
Posted on 3/18/24 at 11:32 am to PenguinPubes
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I thought about this but just can buy that small bottle of gas’s for $20
I dont understand it considering every walmart around sells ethanol free 87 gas. Or even 93 is still way cheaper than trufuel.
But I do go though about 10gal of fuel per year.
Posted on 3/18/24 at 4:07 pm to Loup
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Might look at using TrueFuel in it.
Canned fuel might be an answer for him but not TrueFuel for regular use. I use Echo RedArmor 2-stroke mix oil and their canned fuel, mix my own gas during the season then flush and store with the canned fuel at the end of the season. Only TrueFuel I have is the 4-cycle stuff, use it to flush my other lawn equipment before storage.
Posted on 3/18/24 at 5:03 pm to Loup
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TrueFuel
Tru-fuel, while expensive, is worth it in small engines. You will use 75 cents worth of fuel instead of 25 cents, but it will start on the first pull every time.
I use it exclusively in my Honda mower, Murray trimmer, and Suzuki 2.5hp outboard motor.
4-stroke blend in the Honda and Suzuki, and the 40:1 blend in the trimmer.
This post was edited on 3/18/24 at 5:08 pm
Posted on 3/18/24 at 5:18 pm to PillageUrVillage
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But it never seemed to run right with the Trufuel. It wouldn't get up to full RPM's and would bog down easier. Ran like a top on 87. I assumed it didn't have enough compression to fully burn the higher octane Trufuel, but I really don't know.
Not as much to do with octane but the nature of canned fuels in general. They all will produce less power than fresh regular gasoline/gas-oil mix due to the fact that canned fuels are a mix of very refined compounds but overall has less volatility than gasoline. You are trading peak performance for convenience which is why I run my equipment on my own mix and only run canned fuel in the last tank of the season. My blower sees almost year round use so I use Echo canned fuel in it during the off season but it definitely is down on power while doing so.
This post was edited on 3/19/24 at 12:32 am
Posted on 3/18/24 at 5:37 pm to Clames
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bature
I tried to google this and google thinks I'm a moron.
Can you please explain further or link me to educate myself?
Edit- the reason I ask is for the Suzuki, it does seem to not really top out at the higher RPM's, I get up to 75% on the tiller handle but any higher and it doesn't work any harder. I never thought about it being a fuel problem with "bature" in a canned fuel.
This post was edited on 3/18/24 at 5:44 pm
Posted on 3/18/24 at 5:54 pm to Clames
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They all will produce less power than fresh regular gasoline/gas-oil mix due to the fact that canned fuels are a mix of very refined compounds but overall has less volatility than gasoline.
That makes sense. The difference was significant. I spent a ton of time trying to tune the carb and almost returned the damn trimmer.
That and the price difference is plenty enough for me to not want to use it anymore.
To everyone else, disregard all the nonsense I said about octane.
Posted on 3/19/24 at 12:39 am to deeprig9
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I never thought about it being a fuel problem with "bature" in a canned fuel.
"Nature" and yes it will be difficult to figure anything out with a word I misspelled and spellcheck didn't catch in my haste to tap submit.
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Edit- the reason I ask is for the Suzuki, it does seem to not really top out at the higher RPM's, I get up to 75% on the tiller handle but any higher and it doesn't work any harder.
I bet if it was tested it would be that canned fuels offer a little less energy per unit mass than pump gas. I'm sure there is tuning that could be done to find some of the lost power but that's not really worth the cost. Just a matter of what counts more to you, a little less power for fewer carb problems is a choice many people happily trade for.
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