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Posted on 9/24/20 at 7:58 pm to
Posted by DevilDogTiger
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Posted on 9/24/20 at 7:58 pm to
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Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 9/25/20 at 12:44 am to
Ok I've immersed myself in this nonsense like nothing else all day and night.

Here's a few things I've found:

- the 200 watt ring 'smart transformer' @ $99 seems like the ideal transformer to buy and of course amazon/ring's customer support is legendary so why save $10 buying a dumb/timer transformer?



- for 20+ lights that i'm planning the 12 gauge wire is the way to go. i wouldn't go with anything higher especially if you may want to add to your lighting later on.

- waterproofing is key. the weak link once you've calculated the # of lights, watts & distance..is poor connections. there are several connectors but important to buy the type that has the die-electric grease/gel and seals up. if you're connecting 20 lights, that is 40 potential points of failure (2 connectors per light) so pay a little extra and get good connectors. use something like this:



- its a bit of an art form but i'm getting a general feel of how i can 'paint' my house w/ a combination of spotlights, pathway lights and tree lights. looks like i have to figure out whether to screw a light into the trunk of the tree, put several floods around it or even mount a spotlight in the middle of the trunk pointing up. the trees will take the most amount of thought.

- i'm running 200-300ft of trenches so that $100 wilton trenching spade is a no-brainer. i would pay twice that amount.



- looks like i can buy a diamond blade for my circular saw and cut across one of my driveway expansion joints to cross over. seems like a no-brainer to cut across where there's already a potential gap.

in typical CAD fashion this will probably crash and burn but i'm pretty excited so far. i feel better about maintaining & replacing failed lights now that i know its not magic to connect them.
This post was edited on 9/25/20 at 1:08 am
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
35191 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 8:09 am to
I’m excited for you. I remember you talking about this months ago.

Does each transformer only run one wire? I was kind of hoping I could run one left and right out if it. But I’ll probably need 2 anyway.
Posted by mr. penguin
Member since Jun 2009
7467 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 8:55 am to
I did it myself. It honestly wasn't hard to do. Just buy a large spool of the LV wiring and the lights that you need with a large enough power supply. If you need to run it under a sidewalk, there's a very simple tool that allows you to run PVC under your sidewalk and connect a hose to it to tunnel it through.
Posted by LSUDbrous90
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2011
1450 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 9:17 am to
On recommendation from here I put in a big volt system at my new house. They have great packages at costco. I tried to piece mill the backyard myself and ended up returning everything and doing another volt package because I realized the costs were going to be similar and volt had much higher quality product

Volt at Costco
Posted by FieldEngineer
Member since Jan 2015
2124 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 9:45 am to
quote:

looks like i can buy a diamond blade for my circular saw and cut across one of my driveway expansion joints to cross over. seems like a no-brainer to cut across where there's already a potential gap


There was a great thread here recently on how to tunnel a driveway. I would do that and run some conduit before I sawed my concrete.
Posted by Neauxla
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2008
33443 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 10:21 am to
VOLT lighting. I did it myself. Super easy and has been great so far.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78101 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 10:21 am to
quote:

I’m excited for you. I remember you talking about this months ago.
my bathroom redo and repairing rotten deck boards has gotten in the way of this project. i haven't forgetten it though!

quote:

Does each transformer only run one wire? I was kind of hoping I could run one left and right out if it. But I’ll probably need 2 anyway.


i think you would just twist-tie 2 or 3 wires together and shove that shite into the transformer opening. its stranded wire and i saw a Lowes video where the woman twisted 4 12g wires together and was able to shove the whole thing into the transformer connector. i'll look for that video.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78101 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 10:27 am to
my biggest disappointment is the lack of low voltage post lights.

i checked ebay, amazon, home depot and lowes and came up with shite.

i hit a couple specialty landscape lighting sites and they only had about 3 options and they were $300+ each

so unless y'all can find me a decent option for under $100/ea that uses low voltage, i'm seriously considering these heavy duty amazon solar post lights. they would get plenty of sun and since they're mounted on the brick i wouldnt mow them over. i hate the idea of solar lights but if i went this route that would make the rest of the landscape lighting job much much MUCH easier because i would only need to hit the crab apples trees in the middle of the yard and not have to deal with a massive run to the street at each corner of the driveway.



Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78101 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 10:31 am to
quote:

There was a great thread here recently on how to tunnel a driveway. I would do that and run some conduit before I sawed my concrete.


2 things:

1. i live in limestone TN so there's more rock under my driveway than dirt. going under it would be a huge pain.

2. i'm cutting where the expansion joint is so its already potentially open enough to fish a wire in there; i would just be using the saw to make sure the opening is wide enough.
Posted by mingoswamp
St. Louis
Member since Aug 2017
968 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 10:04 pm to
quote:

my biggest disappointment is the lack of low voltage post lights.


I bought some solar landscape lights at Sam's Club years ago that worked really well and used AA lithium batteries. The only problem was they were a weird voltage for AA batteries (not the normal 1.5V) and cost close to $5 each to replace. You will need to replace the batteries every couple of years or more.
Posted by mctiger1985
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
3693 posts
Posted on 9/26/20 at 9:36 am to
CAD, I'm pretty sure you need the Ring lighting bridge for that transformer.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78101 posts
Posted on 9/26/20 at 10:30 am to
I pointed that out earlier in the thread. It's like $19.
Posted by nolanola
Member since Nov 2010
7582 posts
Posted on 9/27/20 at 2:09 pm to
VOLT Brand Lighting - DIY
Posted by mctiger1985
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
3693 posts
Posted on 9/27/20 at 4:46 pm to
Ahh, didn't even read that page. Just went through it. Looks like Amazon has another roll of wire for $57 now if no one noticed yet.
Posted by Kay
Member since Mar 2011
1944 posts
Posted on 9/27/20 at 7:46 pm to
Did along front of my house (very wide) for about $300. Quote was $1000. Transformer was about $50 from Amazon. Neighbor worked at Notoco at the time and made fun, but 4 years later, it’s still running.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78101 posts
Posted on 9/27/20 at 10:46 pm to
quote:

VOLT Brand Lighting - DIY
I'm intrigued by the kit but it's very expensive for the number of lights I plan to install. The starter kit at $500 only comes with 3 pathway lights and 6 floods. I'll need to spend another $500+ in expansion kits at least to cover what I want.

Too high for me although I do like the lever connectors. I don't mind to fuss with a little gel and stripping cables. It's not that much work.

I like the little sleeve that you can adjust on the well lights to reduce glare too. Definitely noted that so any lights I buy I'm going to look for that feature.

eta i should clarify: my current budget is $1,000 for this project (pending the sale of a few of those nest cameras I have left!) but for that amount i expect to get 15-20 lights, the wiring, the waterproof connectors, that trenching tool ($129 alone) and the Ring smart transformer so i won't have to depend on a photo cell or mechanical timer.
This post was edited on 9/28/20 at 9:00 am
Posted by Neauxla
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2008
33443 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 9:09 am to
quote:

he Ring smart transformer so i won't have to depend on a photo cell or mechanical timer.
I've never had any issues w/ my photocell. If anything the Ring will be more work b/c you will have to change the time for different times of the year w/ the sun set/rise times changing.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78101 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 9:22 am to
quote:

If anything the Ring will be more work b/c you will have to change the time for different times of the year w/ the sun set/rise times changing.


it has sunrise/sunset offset based on your location like all my smart lights do.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
35191 posts
Posted on 9/29/20 at 9:36 am to
Anyone know about the transformer here? I like the set but can't find any specs on that thing.

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