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New subdivisions with large lots

Posted on 10/6/21 at 7:35 pm
Posted by lsugrldej8
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2006
2344 posts
Posted on 10/6/21 at 7:35 pm
Why is it so difficult to find new subdivisions with lots a 1/2 acre or larger? Every new subdivision being developed right now is postage stamp size lot. I know builders get more bang for their buck the more houses they squeeze in but we can’t be the only ones wanting a nice size lot in a subdivision for our kids to play. So frustrating!
Posted by SouthernInsanity
Shadows of Death Valley
Member since Nov 2012
18725 posts
Posted on 10/6/21 at 7:38 pm to
quote:

Why is it so difficult to find new subdivisions with lots a 1/2 acre or larger?


MONEY!!!

and if I had the money and resources, and was a developer... I'd strive to develop subdivisions with two options, 3/4 acre or 1 acre.
Posted by lsugrldej8
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2006
2344 posts
Posted on 10/6/21 at 7:55 pm to
Yeah it’s crazy they cram 200 houses on 50 acres but can’t have 30-40 houses on that same 50 acres. We keep hoping something will come available but every white proposed development sign we have seen we’ve called and all a tiny lots.

quote:

I'd strive to develop subdivisions with two options, 3/4 acre or 1 acre


This is exactly what we are looking for and we assumed more people were as well.
This post was edited on 10/6/21 at 7:57 pm
Posted by glorymanutdtiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2012
3791 posts
Posted on 10/6/21 at 8:09 pm to
It's about profit. They can sell 5 houses in 1 acre for total of 2 million easily.

Will you pay 2 million for one house in an acre lot?
This post was edited on 10/6/21 at 8:10 pm
Posted by lsugrldej8
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2006
2344 posts
Posted on 10/6/21 at 8:14 pm to
Oh I know it’s about profit and that’s the reason but it just sucks for people who want a larger piece of land.
Posted by CWS91
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2005
1006 posts
Posted on 10/6/21 at 8:18 pm to
Because with all the government regulations these days you can't develop 1/2 acre lots and make a profit.
Posted by Bayou
CenLA
Member since Feb 2005
36802 posts
Posted on 10/6/21 at 8:28 pm to
Buy a couple lots!



We have 1 acre lots at our new house. We bought the lot next to us as well
Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
6163 posts
Posted on 10/6/21 at 9:16 pm to
Yeah I do t get why people go nuts for those small arse yards. If you’re old it makes sense but I see young couples with kids buying them and they hardly have a backyard.

I live in a neighborhood with 1/2 acre lots and the prices these houses have been selling at are ridiculous. It makes me want to sell ours, buy 10 acres a little further out and park a trailer on it for a few years until we can build.
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
11500 posts
Posted on 10/6/21 at 9:42 pm to
quote:

It's about profit. They can sell 5 houses in 1 acre for total of 2 million easily.

Will you pay 2 million for one house in an acre lot?


I was going to post that new construction on 1+ acre comes with a million dollar house... or more.
Posted by bamaswallows
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
1175 posts
Posted on 10/6/21 at 10:05 pm to
Even if you can find land at reasonable price, the cost to build street with underground drainage and curb and gutter, water, sewer, electric, gas etc. is expensive - you either pour 200’ roads and get 8 lots at 50’ (4 on each side of road), or 2 lots at 200’ (1 on each side). The market is bigger for cheaper lots, so developers have to try to make them cheaper by decreasing frontage feet
Posted by Drunken Crawfish
Member since Apr 2017
3823 posts
Posted on 10/7/21 at 8:23 am to
I guess it depends on where you are and where you want to be. Grant Parish has a good inventory of acre lots
Posted by NOLALGD
Member since May 2014
2231 posts
Posted on 10/7/21 at 8:55 am to
1) In my work I see lots of larger residential lots available, mostly in rural areas and not close to most stuff.

2) Its market economics for land owners and developers, and also the cost of amenities. Putting in curb and gutter, sidewalks, municipal sewer, streetlights, drainage infrastructure, etc., gets really expensive and will be passed on to the cost of the land, so its harder to sell/develop land in large lot subdivisions at the right price point.

3) From my limited experience in other parts of the country, maintenance/HOA costs for larger lot subdivisions can be very expensive, mostly due to simple math. Less homeowners to pay in, still a lot of land, property, amenities to maintain, especially if community recreation amenities are required.

All of this together makes it tough, especially when local zoning rules allow smaller lots.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23701 posts
Posted on 10/7/21 at 9:07 am to
It isn't just developer profit. Governmental entities and utilities prefer more densely populated developments because it reduces the cost of utility service, like sewer, water, electric and gas lines, and street maintenance costs. Longer runs on the street side of the meter and longer streets are much more expensive in the long run for utilities and governmental entities. Also, while developers absorb most of the initial cost of construction, the long term costs are much greater as the streets need to be repaired and the utilities need to be upgraded and maintained.

Developers don't get to approve their own developments. The zoning and permitting entities have the final say. They set the standards.
Posted by ABucks11
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
1144 posts
Posted on 10/7/21 at 9:36 am to
It’s sucks, but you either have to buy land away from town or accept you buy in an older neighborhood with bigger lots.
Posted by jojothetireguy
Live out in Coconut Grove
Member since Jan 2009
10484 posts
Posted on 10/7/21 at 9:40 am to
Ascension is doing a subdivision in St. Amant that is a minimum 1 acre up to 3.5 acres. Highly unusual and probably wont' happen again any time soon.
Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
6163 posts
Posted on 10/7/21 at 9:49 am to
quote:

Ascension is doing a subdivision in St. Amant that is a minimum 1 acre up to 3.5 acres. Highly unusual and probably wont' happen again any time soon.


Yeah I have seen 1 or 2 in my area doing up to 5 or 6 acre lots.
Posted by lsugrldej8
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2006
2344 posts
Posted on 10/7/21 at 10:08 am to
quote:


Ascension is doing a subdivision in St. Amant that is a minimum 1 acre up to 3.5 acres


That’s awesome! We are looking for something in Livingston or we would be looking into that. It’s just so hard to find.
Posted by NOLALGD
Member since May 2014
2231 posts
Posted on 10/7/21 at 10:10 am to
quote:

Yeah I have seen 1 or 2 in my area doing up to 5 or 6 acre lots.


One quick point here, before purchasing in a subdivision like this please check the local zoning rules. I've seen large lots purchased in a "neighborhood" that are later re-subdivided into several smaller lots, often as an administrative approval with no public hearing since the infrastructure might already be there.
Posted by 1609tiger
Member since Feb 2011
3230 posts
Posted on 10/7/21 at 5:02 pm to
Cause it’s great living a few feet from loud neighbors and their barking dogs.
Posted by FieldEngineer
Member since Jan 2015
2123 posts
Posted on 10/7/21 at 5:04 pm to
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That’s awesome! We are looking for something in Livingston or we would be looking into that. It’s just so hard to find.


Check Harrells Ferry Landing on 4H. Big lots. :)
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