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re: Natural gas, home generators, thoughts
Posted on 8/11/23 at 3:23 pm to SeeeeK
Posted on 8/11/23 at 3:23 pm to SeeeeK
I have a tri fuel Champion that I have a dedicated gas line for. Got it last year. I keep the hose hooked up to line and the generator just needs to be rolled out and hooked up. Mine is 10k 8k or something like that. I do not regret it. $1300 plus a $100 for a good 10 gauge cord. Will probably pig tail to box next year. Bought a 12k BTU window unit that keeps the kitchen and den cool. My house is only 1400 sq ft though. For me, the math on the whole house gen didn’t work out vs what I went with.
This post was edited on 8/12/23 at 10:27 pm
Posted on 8/11/23 at 3:24 pm to SeeeeK
I would personally stay away from Generac. That is all.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 3:26 pm to SeeeeK
We have one. Paid just shy of 13k for a 24KW Generac.
Worth every penny.
Worth every penny.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 3:26 pm to Mudminnow
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Tri fuel portable generator to power home is the way to go if you have NG furnace and water heaters. Can power central HVAC unit with 13,000W no problem. 1/4 price of generac.
Drier pulls some wattage
The 13k tri fuels are derated with nat gas and propane
With ac start up and drier running, and other essentials you can push the little Duramax tri fuel
Posted on 8/11/23 at 3:27 pm to SeeeeK
we really like having our 22kw generac but during IDA it was tough to get propane. we do not have natural gas available to us.
gonna put a diesel one new house
gonna put a diesel one new house
This post was edited on 8/11/23 at 3:30 pm
Posted on 8/11/23 at 3:29 pm to SeeeeK
My neighbor recently put in a whole home generator. He put in a Generac for an 1800sq ft. house and he said it cost around $17000... He has over estimated things in the past so I took that value with a grain of salt...
Posted on 8/11/23 at 3:33 pm to SeeeeK
Yea we are around 4k square feet and 4 a/c units totalling 10 tons and the guy said you can run everything full blast
Posted on 8/11/23 at 3:40 pm to LanierSpots
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of my neighbors here in south Florida have Natural gas powered Generac's. I think you are looking at 10-15K depending on what size you get
My house is set up with a portable 11kw generator converted to Natural gas. It's not automatic, but I can get it running in 5 minutes. Powerful enough to run central AC and fridge along with lights and typical use load. Total of about 3k with electrician getting the house wired up.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 3:44 pm to Jon A thon
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Total of about 3k with electrician getting the house wired up.
Damn. That is cheap.... You wont get that in Florida these days
Posted on 8/11/23 at 3:47 pm to SeeeeK
I have a 9500 watt tri-fuel. Can easily power the whole house, minus central air, oven, and dryer. I have two window units on a shelf in my garage. The generator brand new was $1200, and another $200 in electrical materials to add breakers and power inlet on my back porch where I have a natural gas quick connect. Was definitely a lot cheaper than the Generac route. I looked at getting a soft start kit for my central air and a bigger generator, but figured you're looking at twice the cost for a short term need that's only needed very rarely. Can manage with window units for a couple of days.
Also, there are very few Generac mechanics in South La, at least during Ida that was the case. I know several people that had Gerneracs go down and were in a bind. At least if you go the portable generator setup, you can get a backup generator and keep trucking. The hardest part during hurricanes is gasoline. If you get the tri-fuel, you have the best options to not have to fight crowds searching for fuel.
Also, there are very few Generac mechanics in South La, at least during Ida that was the case. I know several people that had Gerneracs go down and were in a bind. At least if you go the portable generator setup, you can get a backup generator and keep trucking. The hardest part during hurricanes is gasoline. If you get the tri-fuel, you have the best options to not have to fight crowds searching for fuel.
This post was edited on 8/11/23 at 3:53 pm
Posted on 8/11/23 at 3:48 pm to Deactived
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Yea we are around 4k square feet and 4 a/c units totalling 10 tons and the guy said you can run everything full blast
Posted on 8/11/23 at 3:52 pm to SeeeeK
I have a Generac that runs the house and even the pool. There is a propane tank on the side of the house that feeds the generator. I forget the size of the tank but it’s about five feet tall. The lady that I bought the house from said the tank could keep the generator on for 30 days. The propane is on auto refill by the local company. I live on an island so I don’t have access to natural gas.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 3:53 pm to SeeeeK
Generac's can come with a 10 year warranty, depending on the dealer, so if they're willing to warranty for that length it seems like a good indication on where they're at with quality issues now.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 3:53 pm to SeeeeK
I’ve got Grasten coming out on Monday to give me a quote. Me and a buddy are going in together for stand-by generators. We’ll try and negotiate a multi-home discount. If you’re anywhere near The Woodlands, you can join us on the multi-home discount.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 3:56 pm to Athis
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My neighbor recently put in a whole home generator. He put in a Generac for an 1800sq ft. house and he said it cost around $17000... He has over estimated things in the past so I took that value with a grain of salt...
Yeah, that's crazy. 13K, they did all the work, 3200 SF house with 2 A/C units and a pool. It will run everything full blast.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 4:21 pm to lowhound
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I have a 9500 watt tri-fuel. Can easily power the whole house, minus central air, oven, and dryer. I have two window units on a shelf in my garage. The generator brand new was $1200, and another $200 in electrical materials to add breakers and power inlet on my back porch where I have a natural gas quick connect. Was definitely a lot cheaper than the Generac route. I looked at getting a soft start kit for my central air and a bigger generator, but figured you're looking at twice the cost for a short term need that's only needed very rarely. Can manage with window units for a couple of days.
Also, there are very few Generac mechanics in South La, at least during Ida that was the case. I know several people that had Gerneracs go down and were in a bind. At least if you go the portable generator setup, you can get a backup generator and keep trucking. The hardest part during hurricanes is gasoline. If you get the tri-fuel, you have the best options to not have to fight crowds searching for fuel.
I have essentially the same setup. A Firman Tri-Fuel 8500W I got from Costco for $700. Had the 50A hookup installed in the back and had a plumber run a quick connect valve off of my natural gas line for the grill on my patio. Neighbor had a tree fall last night out of nowhere and cut power to our side of the street. I wheeled the generator out, fired it up and plugged it in. Runs everything but the central AC, had a window unit going in my bedroom. Ran it all night up until about an hour ago when power got restored. This is the first time I've run it for an extended period and I'm really pleased with it. Was very nice not to have to go fill the generator with gas every few hours and this was a fraction of the cost of a whole-home unit. I've heard from buddies that have them that the Generacs can leave you in a bind when you need them the most, I like the ability to just swap out the generator if I have any issues with it and keep going.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 4:30 pm to WhoGeaux
quote:Nah man, instead of rebuilding the shite that’s proven to work we’re retooling to wind and solar.
It's a shame but the power grid infrastructure where I live seems to becoming worse and worse as well. Small storms causing long outages or just random outages due to equipment failure.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 4:46 pm to Mudminnow
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Tri fuel portable generator to power home is the way to go if you have NG furnace and water heaters. Can power central HVAC unit with 13,000W no problem. 1/4 price of generac.
This is my set up. Tri fuel gen with interlock. House has gas stove, dryer, heating, water heater. I don’t think it’ll support my central so I have a window unit in the back room. But I’ll be good for winter outage.
Interlock $750(thanks to H&G rec)
Firman gen $800
This post was edited on 8/11/23 at 4:47 pm
Posted on 8/11/23 at 5:15 pm to PeteRose
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Interlock $750(thanks to H&G rec)
Interlocks cost $60 an require little to no exp to install as long as you’re not retarded.
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