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re: Natural gas, home generators, thoughts

Posted on 8/11/23 at 3:23 pm to
Posted by TJack
BR
Member since Dec 2018
3059 posts
Posted on 8/11/23 at 3:23 pm to
I have a tri fuel Champion that I have a dedicated gas line for. Got it last year. I keep the hose hooked up to line and the generator just needs to be rolled out and hooked up. Mine is 10k 8k or something like that. I do not regret it. $1300 plus a $100 for a good 10 gauge cord. Will probably pig tail to box next year. Bought a 12k BTU window unit that keeps the kitchen and den cool. My house is only 1400 sq ft though. For me, the math on the whole house gen didn’t work out vs what I went with.
This post was edited on 8/12/23 at 10:27 pm
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
9988 posts
Posted on 8/11/23 at 3:24 pm to
I would personally stay away from Generac. That is all.
Posted by hottub
Member since Dec 2012
3652 posts
Posted on 8/11/23 at 3:26 pm to
We have one. Paid just shy of 13k for a 24KW Generac.

Worth every penny.
Posted by ike221
Loo A Vul
Member since Aug 2006
13856 posts
Posted on 8/11/23 at 3:26 pm to
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Tri fuel portable generator to power home is the way to go if you have NG furnace and water heaters. Can power central HVAC unit with 13,000W no problem. 1/4 price of generac.



Drier pulls some wattage

The 13k tri fuels are derated with nat gas and propane

With ac start up and drier running, and other essentials you can push the little Duramax tri fuel
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 8/11/23 at 3:27 pm to
we really like having our 22kw generac but during IDA it was tough to get propane. we do not have natural gas available to us.

gonna put a diesel one new house
This post was edited on 8/11/23 at 3:30 pm
Posted by Athis
I AM Charlie Kirk....
Member since Aug 2016
15769 posts
Posted on 8/11/23 at 3:29 pm to
My neighbor recently put in a whole home generator. He put in a Generac for an 1800sq ft. house and he said it cost around $17000... He has over estimated things in the past so I took that value with a grain of salt...
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 8/11/23 at 3:33 pm to
Yea we are around 4k square feet and 4 a/c units totalling 10 tons and the guy said you can run everything full blast
Posted by Jon A thon
Member since May 2019
2404 posts
Posted on 8/11/23 at 3:40 pm to
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of my neighbors here in south Florida have Natural gas powered Generac's. I think you are looking at 10-15K depending on what size you get




My house is set up with a portable 11kw generator converted to Natural gas. It's not automatic, but I can get it running in 5 minutes. Powerful enough to run central AC and fridge along with lights and typical use load. Total of about 3k with electrician getting the house wired up.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
69734 posts
Posted on 8/11/23 at 3:44 pm to
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Total of about 3k with electrician getting the house wired up.



Damn. That is cheap.... You wont get that in Florida these days

Posted by lowhound
Effie
Member since Aug 2014
9693 posts
Posted on 8/11/23 at 3:47 pm to
I have a 9500 watt tri-fuel. Can easily power the whole house, minus central air, oven, and dryer. I have two window units on a shelf in my garage. The generator brand new was $1200, and another $200 in electrical materials to add breakers and power inlet on my back porch where I have a natural gas quick connect. Was definitely a lot cheaper than the Generac route. I looked at getting a soft start kit for my central air and a bigger generator, but figured you're looking at twice the cost for a short term need that's only needed very rarely. Can manage with window units for a couple of days.

Also, there are very few Generac mechanics in South La, at least during Ida that was the case. I know several people that had Gerneracs go down and were in a bind. At least if you go the portable generator setup, you can get a backup generator and keep trucking. The hardest part during hurricanes is gasoline. If you get the tri-fuel, you have the best options to not have to fight crowds searching for fuel.
This post was edited on 8/11/23 at 3:53 pm
Posted by lowhound
Effie
Member since Aug 2014
9693 posts
Posted on 8/11/23 at 3:48 pm to
quote:

Yea we are around 4k square feet and 4 a/c units totalling 10 tons and the guy said you can run everything full blast


Posted by Walt OReilly
Poplarville, MS
Member since Oct 2005
124694 posts
Posted on 8/11/23 at 3:48 pm to
You won’t regret it

Posted by Motownsix
Boise
Member since Oct 2022
3142 posts
Posted on 8/11/23 at 3:52 pm to
I have a Generac that runs the house and even the pool. There is a propane tank on the side of the house that feeds the generator. I forget the size of the tank but it’s about five feet tall. The lady that I bought the house from said the tank could keep the generator on for 30 days. The propane is on auto refill by the local company. I live on an island so I don’t have access to natural gas.
Posted by WhoGeaux
Member since Apr 2011
5429 posts
Posted on 8/11/23 at 3:53 pm to
Generac's can come with a 10 year warranty, depending on the dealer, so if they're willing to warranty for that length it seems like a good indication on where they're at with quality issues now.
Posted by StreamsOfWhiskey
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Jun 2013
831 posts
Posted on 8/11/23 at 3:53 pm to
I’ve got Grasten coming out on Monday to give me a quote. Me and a buddy are going in together for stand-by generators. We’ll try and negotiate a multi-home discount. If you’re anywhere near The Woodlands, you can join us on the multi-home discount.
Posted by SouthEndzoneTiger
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2008
11431 posts
Posted on 8/11/23 at 3:56 pm to
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My neighbor recently put in a whole home generator. He put in a Generac for an 1800sq ft. house and he said it cost around $17000... He has over estimated things in the past so I took that value with a grain of salt...


Yeah, that's crazy. 13K, they did all the work, 3200 SF house with 2 A/C units and a pool. It will run everything full blast.
Posted by weaveballs1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
3318 posts
Posted on 8/11/23 at 4:21 pm to
quote:

I have a 9500 watt tri-fuel. Can easily power the whole house, minus central air, oven, and dryer. I have two window units on a shelf in my garage. The generator brand new was $1200, and another $200 in electrical materials to add breakers and power inlet on my back porch where I have a natural gas quick connect. Was definitely a lot cheaper than the Generac route. I looked at getting a soft start kit for my central air and a bigger generator, but figured you're looking at twice the cost for a short term need that's only needed very rarely. Can manage with window units for a couple of days.

Also, there are very few Generac mechanics in South La, at least during Ida that was the case. I know several people that had Gerneracs go down and were in a bind. At least if you go the portable generator setup, you can get a backup generator and keep trucking. The hardest part during hurricanes is gasoline. If you get the tri-fuel, you have the best options to not have to fight crowds searching for fuel.


I have essentially the same setup. A Firman Tri-Fuel 8500W I got from Costco for $700. Had the 50A hookup installed in the back and had a plumber run a quick connect valve off of my natural gas line for the grill on my patio. Neighbor had a tree fall last night out of nowhere and cut power to our side of the street. I wheeled the generator out, fired it up and plugged it in. Runs everything but the central AC, had a window unit going in my bedroom. Ran it all night up until about an hour ago when power got restored. This is the first time I've run it for an extended period and I'm really pleased with it. Was very nice not to have to go fill the generator with gas every few hours and this was a fraction of the cost of a whole-home unit. I've heard from buddies that have them that the Generacs can leave you in a bind when you need them the most, I like the ability to just swap out the generator if I have any issues with it and keep going.
Posted by White Bear
OPINIONS & A-HOLES
Member since Jul 2014
17268 posts
Posted on 8/11/23 at 4:30 pm to
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It's a shame but the power grid infrastructure where I live seems to becoming worse and worse as well. Small storms causing long outages or just random outages due to equipment failure.
Nah man, instead of rebuilding the shite that’s proven to work we’re retooling to wind and solar.
Posted by PeteRose
Hall of Fame
Member since Aug 2014
17860 posts
Posted on 8/11/23 at 4:46 pm to
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Tri fuel portable generator to power home is the way to go if you have NG furnace and water heaters. Can power central HVAC unit with 13,000W no problem. 1/4 price of generac.


This is my set up. Tri fuel gen with interlock. House has gas stove, dryer, heating, water heater. I don’t think it’ll support my central so I have a window unit in the back room. But I’ll be good for winter outage.

Interlock $750(thanks to H&G rec)
Firman gen $800
This post was edited on 8/11/23 at 4:47 pm
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
25961 posts
Posted on 8/11/23 at 5:15 pm to
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Interlock $750(thanks to H&G rec)


Interlocks cost $60 an require little to no exp to install as long as you’re not retarded.
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