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BRich
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re: Mulch or pine needles in flower bed?
CRUSHED pine needle mulch.

Until the English Ivy fills in.


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Daponch
Da Nortchore
Member since Mar 2013
637 posts

re: Mulch or pine needles in flower bed?
Use pine straw. Longleaf pine if you can find it. Pine straw does everything a mulch should do. It beaks down and add nutrients to the soil. It retains moisture and suppresses weed growth if applied at the right depth. Weed seeds will germinate in bark or cypress mulch but not pine straw. Easy to touch up and you don’t have to rake out the old material.


HoLeInOnEr05
North Carolina Fan
Middle of the fairway
Member since Aug 2011
16648 posts

re: Mulch or pine needles in flower bed?
Whoever said Pine Needles doesn’t add nutrients should stop posting. Pine Needles are acidic... a lot of plants love acidic soils...
This post was edited on 3/24 at 10:25 pm


Daponch
Da Nortchore
Member since Mar 2013
637 posts

re: Mulch or pine needles in flower bed?
Yep. It is also a renewable resource. Great stuff


Special K
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Member since Jun 2011
791 posts

re: Mulch or pine needles in flower bed?
Where do you get your pine straw from?


TigerSprings
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Southeast LA
Member since Jan 2019
744 posts

re: Mulch or pine needles in flower bed?
Look at Clegg's for something called Softscapes. It's fantastic!


Crusty
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Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
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re: Mulch or pine needles in flower bed?
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Softscapes. It's fantastic!


Yeah...and EXPENSIVE!

I get the whole pine needles are great for reasons 1, 2 and 3...but for me, I simply don't like the way they look and they "age" quickly. I use Softscape now, but as I mention above, that shit's expensive and you need twice as many bags as you think you will need.


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SpillwayRoyalty
Member since Nov 2019
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re: Mulch or pine needles in flower bed?
I am glad you posted this. I was just about to ask a similar question!


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CrawDude
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re: Mulch or pine needles in flower bed?
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hungryone

I don’t know if you are still following this thread, but are cypress trees harvested specifically to make mulch - I honestly don’t know - or do they just use by-products - limbs, bark, etc from cypress trees cut for lumber and convert that into mulch? I have forester friends I could check with - I assumed it was a by-product from cypress lumber harvesting but I could be wrong - could be both.


tigeroarz1
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Winston-Salem, NC
Member since Oct 2013
1694 posts

re: Mulch or pine needles in flower bed?
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Whoever said Pine Needles doesn’t add nutrients should stop posting. Pine Needles are acidic... a lot of plants love acidic soils...
No proof that pine needles do that
Do pine trees and pine needles make soil acidic
Myth vs Reality

It would take a long time for 3” of pine needles to break down and add the same amount of nutrients as 3” of hardwood or pine bark mulch. Also, you won’t find pine needles in soil conditioners that are typically added to soils at planting. Probably because they don’t add much LINK


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Daponch
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Member since Mar 2013
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re: Mulch or pine needles in flower bed?
Where do you live? I buy from a wholesale company that delivers from Georgia


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LSUDbrous90
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Lafayette
Member since Dec 2011
1057 posts

re: Mulch or pine needles in flower bed?
Anyone have a recommendation on buying pine needles in Lafayette?


FishinTygah84
LSU Fan
LA
Member since Dec 2013
1432 posts

re: Mulch or pine needles in flower bed?
Softscape. Looks like pine needles. Holds its color for 2 years. Been using it for like 10 years. Now all of my neighbors use it. It’s a bit pricey, but it’s worth it


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Sidicous
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Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
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re: Mulch or pine needles in flower bed?
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Where do you get your pine straw from?
I'm lucky. Favorite Aunt just a couple miles away has someone haul away her pine straw from a line of huge old trees along her long driveway. I can go fill a bunch of garbage bags and haul away as much as I like and she still needs some hauled off...every year.

Pretty sure the private landscaper that does her yard either uses his haul in his business or sells it.


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Tigre85
Houston Astros Fan
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2019
802 posts

re: Mulch or pine needles in flower bed?
If your neighbors have outdoor cats they will use it as a litter box . Going to kill them all ...


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LSU316
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Member since Nov 2007
20898 posts

re: Mulch or pine needles in flower bed?
I've gotten it from Stine's before....I'd assume you could get if from that one in Broussard....but I'm sure there are other places in Laffy too...you could check Home Depot and Lowe's.


VanRIch
LSU Fan
Abita Springs, La
Member since Sep 2007
6925 posts

re: Mulch or pine needles in flower bed?
For the pine straw advocates, how often do you refresh it? In my experience the shite breaks down and turns gray so quick. I've switched to mulch but it floats away on a hard rain and gets all over the damn place.


CrawDude
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re: Mulch or pine needles in flower bed?
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For the pine straw advocates, how often do you refresh it?

I’m putting it out now and I’ll usually reapply in the fall - Sept/Oct. Just the street view. I’m finding as the shrubs growth and fill in the landscape beds I’m having to purchase fewer bales.

I’m also getting free leaves from neighbors and using that in landscape beds (and vegetable garden) and I’ll cover that with a lighter layer of pine straw for esthetics and it cuts down on the expense of pine straw purchases. This year 2 of doing that, I’ve been able to cut pine straw purchases by about 1/2.
This post was edited on 3/26 at 11:00 am


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Daponch
Da Nortchore
Member since Mar 2013
637 posts

re: Mulch or pine needles in flower bed?
Install pine straw heavy in the spring and touch it up in the fall for nice color for the holidays. You get more coverage with pine straw than any other mulch so the materials cost is about the same for 2x application of straw vs. the others. The catch with straw is you have labor for the second install. Most of our weed issues are summer weeds so a heavy mulch helps suppress those and retain water over the summer. Irrigation over straw will speed up the breakdown of the straw in full sun.


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