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re: Louisiana Tropical Fruit Gardening - Experiences and Updates

Posted on 7/6/26 at 6:05 am to
Posted by Loup
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Posted on 7/6/26 at 6:05 am to
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In this heat (90F+) a potted mango that size should be watered every day assuming a Gary's-type mix and full sun.

I would move it to shade to recover and water every few days.


Thanks, just moved it under a live oak. Hopefully it pulls through.

With my luck the damn tree is going to fall on it in these storms
Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
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Posted on 7/6/26 at 6:51 pm to
We've got some fruit set on the Taiwan ruby seedless guava. Internet accounts led me to believe this cultivar had issues setting fruit but that doesn't appear to be the case for me. Really excited to see how this turns out. The whole crunchy vs. creamy guava thing has me stumped.


Flamethrower palm really settling in and looking good.




My Chamaedorea radicalis palms from Pensacola have totally recovered from transport and transplant. These things look amazing. Hardy to the mid teens but looks like a Christmas palm.

Posted by wiltznucs
Apollo Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 7/6/26 at 7:29 pm to


Today’s lineup. Them citrus boys and a new one for me.

LZ is notorious for poor production. Perhaps it was the freeze triggering them; but, I’m seeing them at every market and they even seem larger than usual. On top of that; they are all super clean and flavorful. It’s been a banner year for LZ.

Head to head with Orange Sherbet today. LZ wins this one by a nose. Hot take; PPK/Lemon Meringue is better than both of these IMHO.

Karen Michelle is a classic Florida mango that sort of went extinct and has been getting a lot of love after being reintroduced a few years back. It’s a larger mango; with a yellow flesh. It’s good; mild classic flavors with good sweetness. Don’t want to make too much of an impression after having just one; but, based on this example I just don’t get what the hype is about. Give me a Glenn or a Haden.
This post was edited on 7/6/26 at 7:34 pm
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 7/6/26 at 7:59 pm to
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LZ is notorious for poor production. Perhaps it was the freeze triggering them; but, I’m seeing them at every market and they even seem larger than usual. On top of that; they are all super clean and flavorful. It’s been a banner year for LZ.


I have also noticed this. Tons of LZ being posted online with very little anthracnose. If I liked lemon it would be my favorite mango. Still top 10 for me and had a couple of great ones this year.

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Karen Michelle is a classic Florida mango that sort of went extinct and has been getting a lot of love after being reintroduced a few years back. It’s a larger mango; with a yellow flesh. It’s good; mild classic flavors with good sweetness. Don’t want to make too much of an impression after having just one; but, based on this example I just don’t get what the hype is about. Give me a Glenn or a Haden.

You had an off KM or a mislabeled mango. The greatest piece of fruit I have ever tasted was a KM. It should have been a coconut bomb. Closet thing I can compare it to is a great Gary. Like orange sherbet with coconut.
Posted by wiltznucs
Apollo Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 7/6/26 at 9:23 pm to
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You had an off KM or a mislabeled mango. The greatest piece of fruit I have ever tasted was a KM.


I definitely had high expectations; but, it definitely fell flat. Will give it a try again sometime.

If being honest; the mangoes I’ve tried this season that have really left an impression are these.

Florigon…. Didn’t think much of it in years past. Some absolute bangers this year. Let them get totally yellow and enjoy.

Juno…. Technically a Wango. Bright and acidic with some pineapple notes. It’s got a monoembryonic seed; we’ll see where it goes.

Peach Cobbler…. I hate that it stays green which must make it hard to determine when to pick them; but; this may keep pests at bay. Excellent fricking mango.

Lemon Zest…. Yes; it’s finicky. But; when it’s on its on.

P-22 and Kathy/K3 are world class mangoes that not enough people are talking about.

Guava has a unique appeal to it. Not sure that I’ll plant a tree. Would definitely be something I’d graft into an existing tree.

On the flip side.

Coconut Cream gets a lot of hype. Sort of fell flat for me this year.

Samesies with Fruit Punch. Ordinarily great; sort of average this year.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 7/7/26 at 1:33 pm to
speaking of palms does anyone know of any medjool date palms successfully fruiting in our area? We eat a LOT of dates. I have plenty of room in full sun, and they look cool
Posted by AyyyBaw
Member since Jan 2020
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Posted on 7/7/26 at 2:59 pm to
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eat a LOT of dates


Not a true date, but jujubee does grow and fruit in south LA. Referred to as Chinese dates and can be eaten crisp or soft. Plenty of different cultivars.
Posted by cgrand
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 7/7/26 at 5:02 pm to
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Not a true date, but jujubee does grow and fruit in south LA. Referred to as Chinese dates
I did not know that. Thank you I’ll do some research

Tropical update, baby plants edition:

Banana patch



the little ones are just starting to grow but these two namwah are cooking.



plantain in the ground now



I’m fertilizing with this every two weeks



lemon guava, cherry of the Rio grande, Barbados cherry







shampoo ginger finally starting to grow. I added about 8” of rich garden soil to the bed plus a ton of composted manure and I’ve been watering every day. And I added an overhead shade screen. Don’t listen to anyone telling you this is easy to grow




Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
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Posted on 7/7/26 at 6:05 pm to
Lookin good. What is the N-P-K on that banana fert?
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 7/7/26 at 6:29 pm to
here’s the label



I also top dress with composted manure. And water (a lot). Everything I’ve read says you can’t water or feed too much within reason, do you find that to be true?

I’m going to build a bamboo frame that I can tarp for freezes that will cover the whole patch and then run a heater under that. Would you mind posting again the wireless thermostat you use?
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 7/7/26 at 6:34 pm to
Needed a win after the banana fungus and my mango wilting away. Got home to 3 buds on my dragon fruit!

Posted by wiltznucs
Apollo Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 7/7/26 at 7:48 pm to


Today’s mangoes. I didn’t get Ceci last year so it’s been two years. Still fantastic. Glad to get a chance to revisit it.

I’ve said it before and will say it again. Lemon Meringue is the superior option of the citrus mango family. It’s small; but, delightful and a consistent producer.

Taralay was a first for me. The missus and my son really enjoyed it. I was sort of take it or leave it; but, it was surrounded by two of my favs so perhaps an uphill battle today.
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 7/7/26 at 10:12 pm to
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I also top dress with composted manure. And water (a lot). Everything I’ve read says you can’t water or feed too much within reason, do you find that to be true?

Absolutely true and you could push harder than what that fert is giving you. Something like a 15-5-30. They will chew up anything you give them. The only way I have found to burn them is muriate of potash 0-0-60 and even that was because I haphazardly dumped a bunch of it without reading the label for dosage.

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Would you mind posting again the wireless thermostat you use?

LINK
Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
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Posted on 7/7/26 at 10:17 pm to
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I didn’t get Ceci last year so it’s been two years. Still fantastic. Glad to get a chance to revisit it.

Man I can't wait to try one. Have a lot invested in this variety. I have a few sweet tarts that will soon be ripe so that will have to serve as a close approximation.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 7/8/26 at 8:59 am to
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Absolutely true and you could push harder than what that fert is giving you. Something like a 15-5-30
ok thanks. I could also double the dose strength of what I already have I assume? Or supplement with blood meal and kelp/potash?
This post was edited on 7/8/26 at 9:05 am
Posted by Neauxla
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 7/8/26 at 9:49 am to
I just got notification that my scions shipped yesterday and I think they will arrive while I’m at the beach. Suggestions on how to keep them healthy while I am out of town?
Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 7/8/26 at 10:31 am to
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ok thanks. I could also double the dose strength of what I already have I assume?


Sort of. Liquid ferts are only around for uptake for a short time before rain or irrigation removes them. That's why I like my liquid ferts to be strong - want maximum uptake while they are there.

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Or supplement with blood meal and kelp/potash?


All great organic options. But bananas are one of the few things out there that can chew up a load of strong synthetic fertilizer and actually use it. Since it's all a race against time with bananas I try to supercharge them. They also set better racks with more fertilizer.

You can absolutely go with organic stuff and they will do fine, just not as fast as with cheap miracle gro or a synthetic time release. I give mine 8-2-12 time release (high N and K with low P is what you want for bananas) and I supplement with organic mulch (chop and drop) and the occasional strong synthetic liquid feed.

Bananas are high octane race cars. You can gas 'em up big time.
Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 7/8/26 at 10:34 am to
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I just got notification that my scions shipped yesterday and I think they will arrive while I’m at the beach. Suggestions on how to keep them healthy while I am out of town?

Have someone stick them in the fridge wrapped with a wrung out damp paper towel. Your chances of achieving a successful graft take will be reduced but the scions will at least be preserved.
Posted by Neauxla
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2008
34720 posts
Posted on 7/8/26 at 10:35 am to
Thanks!

ETA: Never mind! Tracking shows by tomorrow at 9 PM so I might luck out!
This post was edited on 7/8/26 at 10:42 am
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 7/8/26 at 10:42 am to
Make damn sure they don't place them in the rear of the fridge where there are often cold spots that freeze. If they freeze it's over.
This post was edited on 7/8/26 at 10:43 am
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