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re: Louisiana Tropical Fruit Gardening - Experiences and Updates
Posted on 6/26/26 at 8:13 am to Tigerlaff
Posted on 6/26/26 at 8:13 am to Tigerlaff
Nice!
Just extra pumice on top the seedling?
I got some ataulfo from Costco to scratch my itch,, going to plant the seeds just to have some fun and try grafting on them.
Got my new cecilove, and lil gem in. Look pretty good, 2 flushes above the graft, genuine Zill yellow nursery tags.
Planning to go into Cajun top pot mix in a 15 gal pot.
Would you completely bare root them, or just shoot for maybe 50% reduction in the terrible soil? Worried if I go too aggressive on these in this heat (even after shady recovery) they will get more shock and reduce vigor for a while…thoughts ?
Just extra pumice on top the seedling?
I got some ataulfo from Costco to scratch my itch,, going to plant the seeds just to have some fun and try grafting on them.
Got my new cecilove, and lil gem in. Look pretty good, 2 flushes above the graft, genuine Zill yellow nursery tags.
Planning to go into Cajun top pot mix in a 15 gal pot.
Would you completely bare root them, or just shoot for maybe 50% reduction in the terrible soil? Worried if I go too aggressive on these in this heat (even after shady recovery) they will get more shock and reduce vigor for a while…thoughts ?
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Posted on 6/26/26 at 1:21 pm to DickTater
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Nice!
Just extra pumice on top the seedling?
Nah that's just my Gary's mix. LOTS of pumice and perlite.
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I got some ataulfo from Costco to scratch my itch,, going to plant the seeds just to have some fun and try grafting on them.
Polyembryonic variety so most of the sprouts will be true to seed Ataulfo. But who has time for growing mangos from seed? Graft those suckers.
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Got my new cecilove, and lil gem in. Look pretty good, 2 flushes above the graft, genuine Zill yellow nursery tags.
Planning to go into Cajun top pot mix in a 15 gal pot.
Would you completely bare root them, or just shoot for maybe 50% reduction in the terrible soil? Worried if I go too aggressive on these in this heat (even after shady recovery) they will get more shock and reduce vigor for a while…thoughts ?
How big are the trees? Mangos rootballs are usually pretty tough to clean out completely. Very hard and tangled. I would clean off 50% as you suggested and just surround it in good soil for the rest of its life.
Posted on 6/26/26 at 2:43 pm to Tigerlaff
They’re in a 3 gal pot, about 24” right now
Definitely just barely year old trees.
Definitely just barely year old trees.
Posted on 6/26/26 at 6:14 pm to DickTater
So I tried one of the Pickerings and it was pretty mellow. I want something brighter and more sweet and tart. Suggestions for our area that fit that description?
Posted on 6/26/26 at 9:47 pm to Neauxla
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. I want something brighter and more sweet and tart. Suggestions for our area that fit that description
The traditional “condo mango” choices well suited to pots are Pickering, Ice Cream, Cogshall, NDM4 and Carrie.
None of which I’d describe as sweet and tart.
In recent years Cecilove, Little Gem, Dwarf Hawaiian and others have entered the discussion.
In real terms; what you can grow in pots is really limited only by your level of commitment. How big of a pot you are willing to put it in and how do you feel about potentially root pruning?
I’ve got a friend who specializes in growing outsized mango trees in pots. They are literally all possible if willing to make the jump from 25 to 50 and beyond. They’ll never produce numbers like one in the ground; but, the quality is the same.
When visiting Japan last year I got to see the Miyazaki mango trees in person. Damn things sell for as much as $2,000 each at auction. It’s just an Irwin here in the States. They grow all of them in pots there in small greenhouses. The trees are limited to as little as a single fruit each. Mirrors are used to reflect as much light as possible to blush the skin. It’s more of a process than anything else; because, Irwin in general sucks.
So if wanting sweet and tart; look no further than Sweet Tart. It’s fabulous. You are eventually going to have to throw it in a 50 gallon pot; but, you’ll enjoy world class mangoes every year while nobody else in your area does.
This post was edited on 6/26/26 at 9:49 pm
Posted on 6/27/26 at 7:31 am to wiltznucs
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They are literally all possible if willing to make the jump from 25 to 50 and beyond
This is true, but the amount of of work it will take to healthily grow a Pickering or Little Gem in a pot versus say a Valencia Pride in a pot is enormous.
Posted on 6/27/26 at 8:48 am to Tigerlaff
Cut the flower off today. Wasn't making more female flowers. Small rack with only 4 hands, but hey that's what happens when they get cold. Now the race is on!
This post was edited on 6/27/26 at 8:49 am
Posted on 6/27/26 at 9:17 am to cgrand
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won’t that weigh like 800 pounds?
If he's doing 45 gallon mangos he has no excuse to not try a dragon fruit!
Posted on 6/27/26 at 9:34 am to Loup
how’s your banana bunch?
two weeks in on my patch everything looks good. I watered yesterday for the first time, the bed is staying pretty hydrated which was the plan.
one new addition, dwarf Puerto Rico plantain. It’s sending out leaves now so I’m going to stick it in another bed with some roselle hibiscus that have been growing
two weeks in on my patch everything looks good. I watered yesterday for the first time, the bed is staying pretty hydrated which was the plan.
one new addition, dwarf Puerto Rico plantain. It’s sending out leaves now so I’m going to stick it in another bed with some roselle hibiscus that have been growing
Posted on 6/27/26 at 3:07 pm to Tigerlaff
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Cut the flower off today. Wasn't making more female flowers. Small rack with only 4 hands, but hey that's what happens when they get cold. Now the race is on!
It’s funny; all of my Namwah bananas have rebounded since the freeze and none of them has flowered. Look great; just not producing fruit.
Attended the Florida Mango Festival this morning. Overall, a pretty good time. There were people already in line at 6 AM for the VIP entry which opened at 9 AM. I was a little bit worried that they had oversold the VIP as it was several hundred people. I managed to get a pretty good assortment of some mangoes with a few that are new to me. I will say that, despite having a larger number of producers, it really felt like it was heavily tilted towards your more common Florida mangoes. By that I mean Haden, Glenn, Maha, Carrie. I hate that I didn’t visit Tropical Acres booth; but, it was a shitshow and poorly organized. Stood in line for 30 minutes and barely moved. Said frick it and bailed.
Food Forest Tampa, Peace River, Hidden Acres and Truly Tropical all did a good job. Some Indian/Paki producers on hand as well. Pricing was anywhere from $7-10lb.
The consensus is that many of the nurseries are going to run out of fruit somewhat early. Mid July’ish… A couple actually indicated that they are running late and believe they will have mangoes well into August or even September.
I left with…
Dupuis Saigon
Juno
Lemon Zest
Kesar
Cecilove
Peach Cobbler
Glenn
Lemon Meringue
Juicy Peach
Ugly Betty
Guava
Zill
Coconut Cream
Tangerine Dream
Jacquelin
Kathy/K3
P-22
CAC
Kaeli-K
I will confess that we left soon after general admission was letting in. There were probably a few thousand people waiting outside. I’m sure there will be some dissent about the event and it’s organization.
I actually left with a new banana for my grove. This is the High Noon varietal. A dessert style banana bred in Honduras which isn’t susceptible to the disease which is wiping out the Cavendish. It’s been pretty widely adopted in Australia, New Zealand and Indonesia.
This post was edited on 6/27/26 at 6:29 pm
Posted on 6/27/26 at 5:31 pm to wiltznucs
Man that sounds so interesting, thank you for the report. You got some true bangers in that mango selection. I know last year was a circus and it sounds like they made marginal improvement. I may have to make one more order before mid July. Wish tropical acres would start their shipping.
I can tell you from experience that freezes do weird things to the banana fruiting cycle. I have seen flowers arrive extremely late, I have seen them die in the stem and emerge rotten without fruit, and I have seen them unable to emerge and choke at the top. I wouldn't worry about it. They'll be back to normal next year.
Just looked up High Noon. It's the SH-3640. I've heard of that before and it seems like an excellent cultivar. It has a lot of the same benefits of Rajapuri, Dwarf Namwah, etc. but makes full size big bananas for the market.
I can tell you from experience that freezes do weird things to the banana fruiting cycle. I have seen flowers arrive extremely late, I have seen them die in the stem and emerge rotten without fruit, and I have seen them unable to emerge and choke at the top. I wouldn't worry about it. They'll be back to normal next year.
Just looked up High Noon. It's the SH-3640. I've heard of that before and it seems like an excellent cultivar. It has a lot of the same benefits of Rajapuri, Dwarf Namwah, etc. but makes full size big bananas for the market.
This post was edited on 6/27/26 at 5:43 pm
Posted on 6/27/26 at 9:38 pm to Tigerlaff
Was fun…
Left with my first Wango…. The Juno…
A hybrid between mango and a mango relative. The Mangifera Rubropetala and a Cambodiana Mango. A singularity of sorts. We’ll see how it tastes in a few days.
Left with my first Wango…. The Juno…
A hybrid between mango and a mango relative. The Mangifera Rubropetala and a Cambodiana Mango. A singularity of sorts. We’ll see how it tastes in a few days.
Posted on 6/27/26 at 9:44 pm to wiltznucs
Yeah Richard Campbell is all in on the wango breeding. I'm really interested to see where it all goes. Definitely tell us what it's like.
Posted on 6/28/26 at 12:25 pm to Tigerlaff
Watering and summer fertilizing is all done. Man it is frigging hot. Had to move one loquat into the shade. Oliver seems to sunburn way more easily than all my others.
Posted on 6/28/26 at 5:59 pm to Tigerlaff
feast or famine with this weather…we go from soggy mess to dry blast oven. What ever happened to the regular 3pm thunderstorm after a sunny day?
I spent all morning and most of the day watering which is ridiculous after all that rain we just got
I spent all morning and most of the day watering which is ridiculous after all that rain we just got
Posted on 6/29/26 at 6:02 am to cgrand
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how’s your banana bunch?
It's still there. Some of the lower ones look like they're rotting off but after a week with no rain it looks a lot better.
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two weeks in on my patch everything looks good
Are you planning on keeping those separated and in small clusters or are you just letting them spread wild? My banana containment ring that I made last year is still working, no pups have sprouted outside of it.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 6:48 am to Loup
Posted on 6/29/26 at 7:13 am to Loup
quote:I was just gonna let them do their thing, and let one pup per plant grow alongside. If it gets to be a PIA I’ll make rings like you did. Right now I’m just happy they are still alive
Are you planning on keeping those separated and in small clusters or are you just letting them spread wild?
Posted on 6/29/26 at 11:01 am to cgrand
flowerage in the tropical bed
Posted on 6/29/26 at 11:37 am to Tigerlaff
Big step today. I repotted my lipstick palm from the 3 gallon container it came in, to a 7 gallon. It had roots coming out of the bottom of the 3 gallon and it was ready.
I didnt use the full Gary mixture for it. I know it needs to retain more moisture so I didnt use the pumice or granite. This was my mixture
50% - Peat Moss
20% - Orchid Bark
15% Pearlite
15% Sand
As close to those percentages as I could.
I also put carbon and Mycorrhizal in there. When I took it out of the container it came in, there was a good bit of bark in there. It also was fairly sandy. I didnt want to change it much because it has been doing well in it. And I didnt remove all the soil from the roots. They looked good So I just scrapped some off and then potted it.
I also put some palm fertilizer on top, a little bit of manure and a thin layer of cypress. I also keep a deep pan under it and water in the pan at all times. I am still using a spray bottle and spraying off the fronds a couple times a day when Im home and walk by. LOL
I also repotted my alocasia. I bought it this spring and it was in a 3 gallon. I repotted it in a 7 in March and its already busting out of that so I put it in a 10. I a little scared of it, my friend has not had good luck with them. It got the Gary soil mixture which is the same thing I did in the spring with the top dressing of Osmocote, manure compost and cypress. I actually had some soil left from March and just used it to repot it today in a 10 gallon. That thing had some great roots on it. I think I am doing well with it so far.
It was in this pot
Roots
I didnt use the full Gary mixture for it. I know it needs to retain more moisture so I didnt use the pumice or granite. This was my mixture
50% - Peat Moss
20% - Orchid Bark
15% Pearlite
15% Sand
As close to those percentages as I could.
I also put carbon and Mycorrhizal in there. When I took it out of the container it came in, there was a good bit of bark in there. It also was fairly sandy. I didnt want to change it much because it has been doing well in it. And I didnt remove all the soil from the roots. They looked good So I just scrapped some off and then potted it.
I also put some palm fertilizer on top, a little bit of manure and a thin layer of cypress. I also keep a deep pan under it and water in the pan at all times. I am still using a spray bottle and spraying off the fronds a couple times a day when Im home and walk by. LOL
I also repotted my alocasia. I bought it this spring and it was in a 3 gallon. I repotted it in a 7 in March and its already busting out of that so I put it in a 10. I a little scared of it, my friend has not had good luck with them. It got the Gary soil mixture which is the same thing I did in the spring with the top dressing of Osmocote, manure compost and cypress. I actually had some soil left from March and just used it to repot it today in a 10 gallon. That thing had some great roots on it. I think I am doing well with it so far.
It was in this pot
Roots
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