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Live Oak roots above ground, slab threat?

Posted on 6/22/20 at 9:12 am
Posted by skullraker
Slidell
Member since Aug 2010
385 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 9:12 am
I have 2 Live Oak trees that are both becoming an issue. The roots are growing above the surface of the ground and probably a threat to my foundation if left unchecked. Can anyone say if it's worth trying to have just the protruding roots ground down? Or should I just go ahead and have the trees removed and stumps/roots ground?
Posted by skidry
Member since Jul 2009
3253 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 10:20 am to
I have several roots like this throughout my yard But no threat to my slab. . I inquired about having them ground and The guy told me it might kill the trees. If taking the trees out is your only other option anyway, might not hurt to try grinding them.
Posted by djangochained
Gardere
Member since Jul 2013
19054 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 10:48 am to
I have an 180 year old monster live oak and roots everywhere

We are getting ready to level out the yard and fill over some of the roots and lay some sod

We will have to do do this every so often. Hard to grow good grass under tree
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38654 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 10:53 am to
quote:

I have an 180 year old monster live oak and roots everywhere
We are getting ready to level out the yard and fill over some of the roots and lay some sod
We will have to do do this every so often. Hard to grow good grass under tree

just so you know, this is not good for the health of your irreplaceable tree
Posted by skullraker
Slidell
Member since Aug 2010
385 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 10:56 am to
If I remove them, he said the soil left will have the ground up root/stump material and it will take "years" for that material to decay. I wonder if it would be wise to rake out as much material and top off with soil before seeding/sodding. Someone told me that sodding is a crapshoot in the summer with direct sunlight. He said might actually have better results with coated seed or that green spray seeding. Any thoughts?
Posted by Stexas
SWLA
Member since May 2013
5992 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 10:56 am to
I've given up growing grass under mine at all. The oaks are the main reason we bought the house so removing them isn't an option. This fall I intend to build out beds around them and fill it all in with hardwood mulch. It finishes the look and the trees like the lack of competition with grass other plants.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38654 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 10:58 am to
quote:

I've given up growing grass under mine at all. The oaks are the main reason we bought the house so removing them isn't an option. This fall I intend to build out beds around them and fill it all in with hardwood mulch. It finishes the look and the trees like the lack of competition with grass other plants.


Posted by JDat
New Iberia, LA
Member since Nov 2011
306 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 11:02 am to
If you grind the roots, tree will either die or the roots will come back. They do make some kind of underground fence for roots. You basically run a trencher and drop this mesh stuff in the trench. I never used it before, but researched it as I almost built on a lot with lots of oak trees.
Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
6163 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 11:04 am to
Yeah I wouldn't do that. I've always taken the hint from nature as to why nothing grows under big oaks like that.

It may not kill it right away, but you will see a slow decline in the health of the tree and eventually will have to remove it.

I see it all the time around businesses and schools. People try to make it something other than a dirty muddy mess under the tree and eventually you end up with oaks with branches falling off and leaves never covering the limbs.
Posted by skullraker
Slidell
Member since Aug 2010
385 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 11:13 am to
As much as I hate the idea of taking these trees out, I think the long term effect of leaving them or trying to manage them will be fruitless. Any ideas on replacement shade trees that won't have the root issue and do not drop tons of leaves?
Posted by JDat
New Iberia, LA
Member since Nov 2011
306 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 11:37 am to
I have 2 drake elms in my front yard. Haven't noticed any roots running on top the ground. (not far from the tree anyway). They grow fast and offer a pretty good canopy.
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
9778 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 11:48 am to
"As much as I hate the idea of taking these trees out,"

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How big are they, how close to the house?

Possible to post a picture?
Posted by skullraker
Slidell
Member since Aug 2010
385 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 12:25 pm to
I'll snap a few pic this evening, but probably 15' from house.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 1:04 pm to
quote:

fill over some of the roots


This isn't good for the tree.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45797 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 1:31 pm to
quote:

We are getting ready to level out the yard and fill over some of the roots and lay some sod


this is going to hurt the trees at a minimum and probably kill them.
Posted by DevilDogTiger
RTWFY!
Member since Nov 2007
6362 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 1:44 pm to
quote:

We are getting ready to level out the yard and fill over some of the roots and lay some sod

Anybody can have a nice sod yard in an afternoon. It takes 180 years to grow your tree. Don’t risk killing an irreplaceable tree for some grass
Posted by Lakefront-Tiger
Da Lakefront
Member since Nov 2004
5908 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 1:55 pm to
Following this thread because I want to see if anyone has any good comments on the protruding roots.
Not as worries about the roots poking up, as much as the branches trying to grow out of them.
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
59443 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 3:47 pm to
quote:

I have 2 Live Oak trees that are both becoming an issue. The roots are growing above the surface of the ground and probably a threat to my foundation if left unchecked. Can anyone say if it's worth trying to have just the protruding roots ground down? Or should I just go ahead and have the trees removed and stumps/roots ground?

Roots extend about as far as your trees drip line. If you foresee that happening, you can put down a root barrier to somewhat protect your foundation depending on how close it is to your house.

I've had to use this on several commercial projects. But it also depends on the distance from house to tree and how deep the panel you need.
Deep Root Barriers


As far as roots above ground under a large tree, the best option I have found is to fill in a little bit of planting mix and plant Mondo Grass, Liriope, Cast iron, some type of shade loving ground cover.

Posted by Wallywalrus
Baton rouge, LA
Member since Sep 2017
878 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 4:52 pm to
Roots getting under your slab is very bad for your home, material decaying under your slab is also bad. Maybe install some sort of sheet metal barrier along the edge?
Posted by lsurulzes88
Member since Jan 2007
398 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 5:03 pm to
Can this be retrofitted to protect driveways and sidewalks? Just requires trenching where you want to install it?
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