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I’m in dire straits
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:48 pm
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:48 pm
I’ve posted on here in the past regarding 2 huge issues I’m dealing with. Drainage and torpedo grass. Well, I’ve finally had enough. I have a guy coming out to install fence drains that run from my backyard to my front yard. Then, I’m going to spray several applications of round up on my front lawn to kill everything, hopefully including all torpedo grass. Then, I’m going to have a guy pull up all of my grass and regrade the front. Then I will sod. I’m torn between going back with centipede, or going with st aug or zoysia. What do y’all think?
Sorry for the long post
Sorry for the long post
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Posted on 4/9/20 at 9:05 pm to FishinTygah84
If you don’t remove all the rhizomes from the torpedo you need to install a grass that you can spray a selective herbicide without killing the grass. You need to install zoysia or bermuda.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 9:28 pm to Daponch
You can do all of that, but you’re still going to have torpedo grass. It’s the devil. It ruined two raised garden beds that I built by infiltrating the whole thing.
You need to plant zoysia which you can spray to knock the torpedo back.
You need to plant zoysia which you can spray to knock the torpedo back.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 9:32 pm to Daponch
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rhizomes
I've read that you have to dig and remove inches of dirt... like more than 2 or 3, to get rid of these. I even think I read on here once where someone just dealt w/ it and cut it like regular grass. I honestly think I would move.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 9:43 pm to FishinTygah84
not st aug. I had a portion of my grass I dug up and replaced w/ fresh sod when torpedo took it over. I didn't get rid of the torpedo(you never will most likely) but the st aug is healthy and covering up most any torpedo.
if the posters saying zoisa will be better is correct, i'd go that route.
if the posters saying zoisa will be better is correct, i'd go that route.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 10:11 pm to FishinTygah84
Do you have full sun? If you do I strongly suggest tif 419. That grass will be super green and dense in the first year. You can also treat torpedo grass and dallisgrass fairly easy.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 10:32 pm to ronk
Yes I get full sun pretty much all day
Posted on 4/9/20 at 10:46 pm to FishinTygah84
I’d go with Bermuda (aggressive) and paint any torpedo that comes back with glyphosate.
There is a good chance you will always fight it though.
There is a good chance you will always fight it though.
Posted on 4/10/20 at 7:09 am to meeple
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I've read that you have to dig and remove inches of dirt... like more than 2 or 3, to get rid of these. I even think I read on here once where someone just dealt w/ it and cut it like regular grass. I honestly think I would move.
Then it can still come up from neighboring yards. They are doing nice things with synthetic grass
Posted on 4/10/20 at 8:14 am to FishinTygah84
I would do tif 419 then. If you have trees on the property it will be thin under them though. If you have something like a big live oak then you won't have any tif under it.
Posted on 4/10/20 at 10:25 am to ronk
Zoysia palisades FTW
Posted on 4/10/20 at 10:40 am to bamaswallows
How big is your yard? If its under a 1/2 acre lot its not that hard to knock it back with chemicals then pull it or paint it with chemicals as it comes up. I know its a PITA but doesnt take that long.
Posted on 4/10/20 at 10:47 am to FishinTygah84
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I’m in dire straits
sounds like industrial disease
Posted on 4/10/20 at 10:56 am to bamaswallows
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Zoysia palisades FTW
I put down 103 pallets about 5 years ago. My neighbors thought I was crazy then. Not so much now though. Our yard is the healthiest on the street and takes far less work to keep it that way.
Just don't cut it super short, it doesn't like to be short.
Posted on 4/10/20 at 1:21 pm to bamaswallows
Zoysia is a good grass but a full sun yard will do better with tif 419. High N fert, you can hit it with MSMA and Tribute Total, you can use Specticle as your fall pre em, and mow it to a half and inch.
Posted on 4/10/20 at 1:44 pm to ronk
Can 419 ever overtake common bermuda or is that impossible?
Posted on 4/10/20 at 3:07 pm to tigerlife36
Yes and no. Common bermuda can and will always be present but the untrained eye won't know the difference. Eventually your 419 will be thicker and greener than common and the common will go unnoticed.
Posted on 4/10/20 at 3:12 pm to ronk
I’m seriously thinking about plugging 419 in my centipede dead spots. It seems I’m fighting a losing battle with high PH and full sun.
Posted on 4/10/20 at 3:41 pm to baldona
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knock it back with chemicals then pull it or paint it with chemicals as it comes up. I know its a PITA but doesnt take that long.
This! 10-12 ounces of roundup per gallon will destroy some torpedo by the 2nd or 3rd shot. Just stay on top of it.
Posted on 4/10/20 at 3:48 pm to tigerlife36
Just a warning true tif 419 is sterile so it will not spread by seed. It is aggressive and will spread fast but to sprig it will take time. Also, you'll either have to use chemicals or cultural practices to help it overtake the centipede.
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