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How to manage live oaks

Posted on 4/4/20 at 1:42 am
Posted by 3oliv3
Member since Aug 2016
691 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 1:42 am
Just bought a house in early March and we’re moving in soon. Not from nola but the new place has a couple beautiful live oaks. Since closing they have decided to drop a shitload of leaves and other shite around the entire property and covering the roof. What is this stuff? What’s the best way to manage it? I want to keep these oaks as healthy and happy as possible in the future.
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
38687 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 1:52 am to
Live oaks drop. Clean it up and enjoy.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20447 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 7:07 am to
They drop really heavy in March and I think OCT/ Nov. Twice a year basically they drop leaves hard. They drop a lot of dead branches throughout the year also especially when it’s windy.

But yeah if they just dropped leaves that’s normal for this time of year and nothing wrong.
Posted by Emteein
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
3887 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 7:11 am to
I have recently done the same, purchase a house with live oaks. On the front half of my roof I’ve got tons of whatever it is that the tree drops. Looks very bad, and it doesn’t seem to wash out with the rain, it just seems to compact on the roof. Thinking about going up there with a blower but I’m worried about messing up the shingles. Will using a blower take off more than just the tree droppings?

Posted by modes
Member since May 2017
257 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 9:21 am to
Just blow from the top down (ridge down to the eave). I do it a couple times a year to get the debris off my roof. If it’s really bad, maybe a soft bristle car wash brush to lightly brush off the bad stuff. Again do it too down like with the blower
Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
41584 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 10:49 am to
install gutter guards
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
9800 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 12:33 pm to
Good advice on blower. A good broom helps with compacted debris.

I think you’re referring to the flowers that they drop.

Don’t leave them up there. Shingles will not dry properly, roofing nails will rust and leak. Ask me how I know. (Replaced a roof after 6 years).
This post was edited on 4/4/20 at 2:03 pm
Posted by td1
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
2837 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 12:53 pm to
They will drop the leaves twice a year and the pollen things once a year. We have a few over 200 yrs old on our property. We have them trimmed and thinned out every two years (mainly the ones you can see from the house) Before we started that strategy, we were loosing to many big limbs during storms. Thinning and lifting the canopy let’s the wind blow through then better vs against them. We try as much as possible to keep them astheticly trimmed over the roof if possible. During both dropping seasons we have to rake or blow off the roof every now and then to keep the leaf dams from backing up the rain / rotting leaves from damaging the roof. Thankfully we do not have gutters. We can let some branches naturally make it to the ground but others we have to make sure to manage the weight so they do not get to heavy.

I can always tell when it is about or past time to get them trimmed bc after a rain some of the larger thicker leaved limbs will sag under the wet leaves sometimes up to 3 or 4 feet. I can also her more “shedding” hitting the roof in bad thunderstorms. Keeping the suckers trimmed in the middle make them look nicer too.

The two big ones usually cost about 1200 to 1500 per trimming (not per tree). If you do it yourself keep in mind the amount of waste is deceptive. We did it once and ended up with a pile that was probably 12 foot wide by 10 feet tall. Since then I just call the arborist so they can shred that stuff and take it with them.

We are in BR and I can recommend Boffinger, very professional and always do a great job. Will even come back out for free if I want more trimmed after they finish.

Posted by FlyinTiger93
Member since May 2010
3580 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 4:05 pm to
Houston Med Center has nets at the base of the branches to catch the leaves.
Posted by Goldbondage
Member since Mar 2020
694 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 4:19 pm to
What your live oak is dropping is called “catkins,” it’s the pollen flower.
As far as maintaining the health of your tree... consider that your trees add value to your property, so you want to manage them well. Structural pruning every couple years from a reputable arbor company would be best. The best companies will have people on staff that can identify potential diseases and nutritional deficiencies. If you don’t have the budget for a full service to the trees, they will stay alive, just not thrive.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16569 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 5:22 pm to
Keep it pruned (talk to an arborist, don't hack at it yourself), especially of dead branches and look out for diseases particular to southern oaks. They are pretty hardy trees but can become susceptible to certain fungi that can kill them if stressed due to drought or other conditions.
Posted by couv1217
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Sep 2007
3327 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 8:04 pm to
Any advice on the male or female, whichever has ground sprouts. One of my line oaks, no issue. The other has tons of sprouts coming up and they are getting hard to handle. I weedeat them down but wondering if there are any other options
Posted by Goldbondage
Member since Mar 2020
694 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 8:14 pm to
Those are root sprouts. Live oaks are known to be a surculose species. That can be an indicator of stress. Stress can come from over-mulching, compaction, poor fertility, fire, etc. Virtually no research has been done on this, but “experts” will claim it is genetic. If you really want to get rid of them, air spade your tree and remove the giant mat of roots that the sprouts are growing from. Otherwise, diquat or roundup every couple weeks.
Posted by Bawcephus
Member since Jul 2018
2747 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 8:49 pm to
quote:

We are in BR and I can recommend Boffinger


Next time if one of the employees is named Kenny, tell him his favorite cop nephew said to give you a discount. He should be the foreman on the crew.
Posted by 3oliv3
Member since Aug 2016
691 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 8:34 am to
Wow thanks for the info td1, that’s exactly what I’m looking for. Based on the condition of rest of the house before we got it I’m going to assume nobody has been out to look at these trees in ages. Will get someone out ASAP.

Posted by td1
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
2837 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 1:59 pm to
I have always been at the office when they come, I just get George to meet me one afternoon to go over what I want compared to what he thinks is the best way to go. Next time, I’ll try to be here and meet Kenny.

I did see their new giant arse truck / crane / tree cutting rig on a job a few months ago. That thing is pretty cool. I bet it significantly cuts down on the time they have to spend on removing trees.
Posted by swamie
Where opportunity meets hard work
Member since Jan 2007
27253 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 8:48 am to
That’s a really good quote td1 has on trimming 2 live oaks. Last time I trimmed mine it was $1750 for 2. I can’t complain though. They did a fantastic job and trimmed my fruit tree just because they wanted to. Another house in the neighborhood had a different company and they lion tailed the shite out of their oaks. Looks ridiculous.

Not sure what the rest of your yard is like but my oaks (6) take up 90% of my time doing yard maintenance.

1. Leaves & Acorns. Have to be near 100 bags this year. One oak went fully nude this winter.
2. Cleaning the roof
3. Chasing away any shade loving weeds in my St. Aug.

I trim my lower canopy myself with my 17’ ladder and a pruning pole to keep the shade minimal on the grass until it’s time to call an arborist for what I can’t get.
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