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Hose Valve Not Working After Freeze
Posted on 2/24/21 at 7:24 am
Posted on 2/24/21 at 7:24 am
Has been 70 the last two days and spigot isn't working. I hear water but nothing comes out.
I also removed the hose and purged it/shut it off before the freeze.
Am I screwed and need a plumber or should I wait a few more days for total thaw?
Its running through a crawl space.
I also removed the hose and purged it/shut it off before the freeze.
Am I screwed and need a plumber or should I wait a few more days for total thaw?
Its running through a crawl space.
Posted on 2/24/21 at 7:39 am to STLhog
Do you have one of those little backflow preventers on there? Take it off and see if it work. Mine froze up as well, but went back to normal.
Posted on 2/24/21 at 8:08 am to STLhog
If you hear water and it’s not coming out thats not good. Take a hair dryer to it and see if you can warm it up? It’s certainly possible there’s enough ice to block the water still if it’s well insulated.
Posted on 2/24/21 at 8:31 am to STLhog
Check the interior wall near the hose bib and make sure you don't see water on the interior of the home.
Posted on 2/24/21 at 10:49 am to kengel2
I think I have one of these on my spigot.
What's a good tool to remove it? I have an adjustable wrench that isn't big enough, but that seems it wouldn't work well even if it was.
What's a good tool to remove it? I have an adjustable wrench that isn't big enough, but that seems it wouldn't work well even if it was.
Posted on 2/24/21 at 10:53 am to Teddy Ruxpin
quote:Two pairs of Channellocks should do it. Use the longer handled pair to hold backup on the spigot.
What's a good tool to remove it?
This post was edited on 2/24/21 at 10:54 am
Posted on 2/24/21 at 10:54 am to Teddy Ruxpin
A channel locks like mentioned above.
But just check around it, because it may have a set screw or something that needs to be loosened.
But just check around it, because it may have a set screw or something that needs to be loosened.
Posted on 2/24/21 at 10:55 am to kengel2
quote:Yup. You can see it pretty plainly in the pic above. Mine didn't have one.
But just check around it, because it may have a set screw or something that needs to be loosened.
This post was edited on 2/24/21 at 11:01 am
Posted on 2/24/21 at 11:14 am to Abraham H Parnassis
Ya going off memory I don't think it has one.
Thanks!
Thanks!
Posted on 2/25/21 at 2:31 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
Is that what this guy is without the set screw?
As you can see, my channel locks aren't doing the job right now.
Water comes right up to the nozzle, just stops there though and leaks out a little bit right now so I don't think there is a clog or its frozen.
As you can see, my channel locks aren't doing the job right now.
Water comes right up to the nozzle, just stops there though and leaks out a little bit right now so I don't think there is a clog or its frozen.
Posted on 2/25/21 at 5:41 pm to STLhog
bump, this is now backing up behind the wall and appears to be leaking into my master closet through the wall on the other side. The space to reach this portion of my crawl space there is tiny AF and I can see the leak with a flashlight but figure I'm just going to call a plumber as I likely won't be able to fix whatever is going on. It appears to only be leaking if the faucet is turned on, so that is good.
Any ideas from you guys what has happened or if I could possible fix it by getting back there?
It will be full army crawl with hardly any room to turn around so only want to get back there if I know its something I can address on my own.
Any ideas from you guys what has happened or if I could possible fix it by getting back there?
It will be full army crawl with hardly any room to turn around so only want to get back there if I know its something I can address on my own.
Posted on 2/25/21 at 6:05 pm to STLhog
Turn your water off and unscrew the screws holding it. It will then unscrew from pipe. Inspect threads or connection. See if there is a split at the connection point.
Inspect hose bib and see if there are any splits. Those unscrew and are easily replaced.
Inspect hose bib and see if there are any splits. Those unscrew and are easily replaced.
This post was edited on 2/25/21 at 6:09 pm
Posted on 2/25/21 at 10:27 pm to STLhog
quote:
Any ideas from you guys what has happened or if I could possible fix it by getting back there?
I'm guessing this is a frostline bib and possibly by leaving the backflow valve attached with an uphill pitch on the frostline faucet, water was trapped inside and split the line between where the washer seat is and the outside handle.
I've had the same thing happen before where it only leaked when the valve was open. Now I make it a point to remove any and all attachments outside the house.
As to replacing it, it's going to be a two trip job and hopefully it's not soldered in. If you buy multiple length frostline faucet and return the ones you don't need it may save you a trip under the house. The faucets aren't too expensive (under $30).
First trip you'll need to figure out how long the frostline faucet is (anywhere from 8-14" long)
If it's not sweated in, a male adapter has already been soldered to the supply line inside. After removing any screws holding the flange on the outside of the house, you need two wrenches from inside the crawl space to remove the frostline faucet and reinstall the new one with the help of someone on the outside of the house.
IF it's sweated in, the job gets worse.
Good luck
Posted on 2/26/21 at 8:06 am to mingoswamp
Well shite.thanks for the details nonetheless.
I’ll probably just be a soy boy and call the plumber. I’ve got 15 jobs going on right now and this is the last thing I need. 500 feet of cedar fence, drainage problems, pre emergent, garage remodel...
“Buy a house, it’s a great investment!”
I’ll probably just be a soy boy and call the plumber. I’ve got 15 jobs going on right now and this is the last thing I need. 500 feet of cedar fence, drainage problems, pre emergent, garage remodel...
“Buy a house, it’s a great investment!”
Posted on 2/26/21 at 8:11 am to STLhog
That looks like a frost proof faucet judging by the fact that the handle is straight out from the wall. These faucets have a long rod that actually closes off the water 8-10 inches away from the outlet. I bet when you turned it off before it froze the water would drip out for a few seconds like it wasn’t closed (which is normal). Sounds like there was enough water in the faucet after the inner seal to freeze and split the faucet. May not be a huge repair, just replace the faucet. These can be hard to replace for the average joe.
Also, because they normally drip after being shut off, most people over tighten them and damage the washers. This makes them leak all the time. If yours had a damaged washer and was leaking, this could have been the water that froze and damaged the faucet.
Also, because they normally drip after being shut off, most people over tighten them and damage the washers. This makes them leak all the time. If yours had a damaged washer and was leaking, this could have been the water that froze and damaged the faucet.
Posted on 2/26/21 at 8:12 am to mingoswamp
Didn’t see this when I replied. This is the correct answer.
Posted on 2/26/21 at 9:17 am to uaslick
quote:
These can be hard to replace for the average joe.
Any idea what I should expect as fair value from a plumber on this replacement?
Posted on 2/26/21 at 9:17 am to uaslick
DP
This post was edited on 2/26/21 at 9:18 am
Posted on 2/26/21 at 9:59 am to STLhog
I’d guess $150 call out, $100 in materials, then 3-4 hours of his time at $75-$100.
Posted on 2/26/21 at 11:50 am to trident
About what I thought, Thanks guys.
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