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Experiences with whole home generators

Posted on 2/18/21 at 4:29 pm
Posted by Legion of Doom
Old Metry
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 2/18/21 at 4:29 pm
My father in law is disabled (can’t take more than about five steps with a walker). He is moving from Lake Charles to Metairie and is talking about getting a whole home generator because evacuating for storms is problematic.
I remember reading either on here or maybe the OT that the generators take a lot of attention to keep them going.
To you baws that have whole home generators what goes into keep the running? What type of generator do you have? Would you get one again knowing what you know now?
Appreciate any experience that you can share.
Posted by KemoSabe65
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Posted on 2/18/21 at 4:34 pm to
Cummins replaced the genrac that crashed at office and is highly thought of by most commercial electricians. Don’t get sold on the warranty or service area because if it has to be used during a hurricane and need service it ain’t happening.
Posted by herbstreit4
Buckeye Lake
Member since Dec 2007
1710 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 4:50 pm to
I have an 18kw Generac Standby whole home setup. 2200 sqft ranch and it powers everything in my house if power goes out. (Furnace and Hot Water Tank are both gas)
Only maintenance consists of a company doing a yearly check with new oil filter (cost about $150)
It auto cycles for about 10 mins every Monday afternoon
Posted by footballdude
BR
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Posted on 2/18/21 at 4:52 pm to
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Posted by Legion of Doom
Old Metry
Member since Jan 2018
4976 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 5:06 pm to
Thanks everyone. To clarify by maintenance I read that people were having to put oil in the generator frequently and that the generators were overheating after hurricane Laura.
Posted by KemoSabe65
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Posted on 2/18/21 at 5:13 pm to
Some have a service procedure after x # of hours, some are also not continuous duty rated. Laura killed plenty here and many failed on start up. Annual service doesn’t guarantee it will run when called on, ours was serviced two days prior to Laura.
Posted by WavinWilly
Wavin Away in Sharlo
Member since Oct 2010
8781 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 5:17 pm to
Mine just ran for two days straight in Houston. Brand new (less than a month old) Generac 24 KW air cooled on natural gas. Had absolutely zero issues. Kept me warm and was able to continue living like normal.

Every 24 hours of continuous run you are supposed to shut it down and check the oil level. I added a tiny bit. Every 150-200 hours of run time you need to change the oil and filter.

Because of the Laura stories I keep about a months worth of oil and filters on hand in my garage just in case.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16556 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 5:22 pm to
I'm looking into a CPE 12.5kW NG unit for my folks. Under $5000 with a 200A transfer panel. Good standard warranty and built in test function. Uses a 24V starting system and seems to be easier than most to maintain.
Posted by KemoSabe65
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Member since Mar 2018
5129 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 5:25 pm to
Know what I haven’t seen since Laura? A genrac commercial.
OP, call some commercial electricians and ask them what brands they service in your area.
Posted by LEASTBAY
Member since Aug 2007
14277 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 6:20 pm to
I heard Kohler was good but it looks the same as Generac to me. I'll probably be shopping for one in a month or so. How much do they charge to install one of these?
Posted by tigereye58
Member since Jan 2007
2668 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 7:39 pm to
They do require maintenance. Like others have said do the yearly service for $150 but also go out and start it once a month and let it run. The biggest issue with Laura is these engines aren’t meant to run 24/7 for 3 weeks. Think of it like this. How long can you run your gas car engine in your driveway at high rpms? 3 weeks straight with no maintenance? Like someone else said. If you’re pushing it that hard for that long it’s got a lot of reason to fail eventually. So plan on letting it rest a few hours a day and checking oil. Then change the oil also. So they’re really convenient but not fool proof. The companies that service them will be overwhelmed during cat 3 or higher hurricanes. If it’s just a small storm service won’t be a problem. Choosing the right company will make it a better experience. Some of the companies in LC have no clue how to service them. The ones that do will service the ones they installed and maintain routinely first. Then work on others but probably won’t even get to those customers bc they have more than they can handle when a major storm hits.
Posted by CMATTE
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2010
270 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 8:18 pm to
Ballpark figure on what this set you back? I’m in the Houston area and after spending 3 days with no power and hearing several in the neighborhood run all night, I am strongly considering it. Never been jealous as a grown man until I saw several homes fully functioning while we were in the dark and cold as hell.
Posted by EveryoneGetsATrophy
Member since Nov 2017
2907 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 8:33 pm to
Generac's were famous for breaking crank shafts when they first came out, maybe they changed. I have a Kohler with no problems.
Posted by lgtiger
LA
Member since May 2005
1140 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 9:13 pm to
After Katrina my neighbor had a Generac air cooled he had to put oil every day. Mine is an liquid cooled if another brand, no oil added while running 3 wks. Look for someone you can count on for service if something happens, I think that is more important than brand . I prefer liquid cooled.
Posted by Legion of Doom
Old Metry
Member since Jan 2018
4976 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 9:33 pm to
Thanks everyone, as always you guys come through with great information. I will tell him all of your input, because he thinks you just have it installed and you are good to go forever.
Posted by Double J18
MAGA-AMERICA FIRST
Member since Oct 2020
700 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 10:03 pm to
I like Briggs air cooled. Have a 20kw.

Change oil and filter every 100 hrs of run time.

Never added oil each day.

Know several people that had generac's that had trouble with the trickle charge system, oil loss and other issues. Battery's would be dead and it would never start.

Kohler's are nice but they are proud of them. Parts are harder to get. They want you to go thru Kohler.

I like briggs for reliablity, never any issues and parts are easy to get if you can repair yourself.

Can get parts online or thru a lawn mower parts store.

Had one for 15years with zero issues.

Installed a new one at my current house with no issues.

Keep enough oil and filters to run for a month is my advice. At minimum.....just in case things get stupid.
I'm on natural gas.

If you install a Briggs.....Put this under your transfer switch or run a line to your garage.
Its a great tool if something is going on that you are not aware of. Led flashes for a Diagnostic Code.

Posted by KemoSabe65
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Member since Mar 2018
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Posted on 2/18/21 at 10:04 pm to
I serviced the office gen at 2:00 on 8/27/20, low coolant wouldn’t allow start. Found some coolant, filled and went to house thinking a hot shower and ac that night. Back at 4:30 and it was fubar, was a terrible feeling.
Posted by eng08
Member since Jan 2013
5997 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 10:44 pm to
Mines about 15 years old now, general 25kw.

Been running 5 days straight and no issues. I’ll never have another house without one.

Recently replaced stator on it for $2k but outside that it’s been an easy $150 yearly Maintenace and a new battery ($90) every 3 years.
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
80766 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 10:51 pm to
Get a generac and pay $250 a year for them to do the annual service. You will literally never have to touch the generator for 15+ years
Posted by WavinWilly
Wavin Away in Sharlo
Member since Oct 2010
8781 posts
Posted on 2/19/21 at 12:06 am to
quote:

Ballpark figure on what this set you back? I’m in the Houston area and after spending 3 days with no power and hearing several in the neighborhood run all night, I am strongly considering it. Never been jealous as a grown man until I saw several homes fully functioning while we were in the dark and cold as hell.


Roughly 13,000 give or take. I don’t have the quote in front of me but I think 1200 or so of that was the gas/electrical run from my gas meter and panel to where I wanted the generator placed.

Got 4 quotes, settled on a company called Quality Home Products of TX. Think they are out of Conroe. Liked several things, including pricing, but mainly they could get it to me the fastest during the post Laura rush. Looking back that was a great decision
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