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Concrete and exterior construction recs

Posted on 5/28/20 at 12:45 pm
Posted by lsu1919
Member since May 2017
3244 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 12:45 pm
Anybody got any good recs for somebody to do a small concrete job and/or build a small deck in the baton rouge/prairieville area? I need both things done and I was hoping to write one check, but at this point I'll do them separately.

I have contacted 7, yes seven, companies/individuals.

They are either way too high, one guy quoted me 7500 for a 15 x 30 4 inch slab, obviously he just wanted to blow me out of the water and not do the job, or they are reasonable 3k for same slab, but the guys are flakes. They don't show up, don't return calls or texts.

Out of 7, three have shown up to look when they said they would. The others haven't shown up to look on the day they said they would.

I have gotten one quote in writing. Called the guy to start. Ok, I'll be there Tuesday. Tuesday comes and goes, he doesn't show up, call, or text. I don't call either, because why should I have to? Guy calls a week later wanting the job.

I'm sure it's a small job and there are bigger fish to fry right now, but the level of unprofessionalism these guys display is amazing.

Anyway, any recs would be appreciated. Even if it's to tell me what I'm doing wrong here.
Posted by Geauxld Finger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
31727 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 1:25 pm to
J & W Contractors
This post was edited on 5/28/20 at 1:26 pm
Posted by TDsngumbo
Alpha Silverfox
Member since Oct 2011
41611 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 1:26 pm to
I have been renovating my older house in Ascension Parish for the past four years and have had every single issue you just described. Every contractor out there reading this can go screw themselves. They are THE MOST unprofessional group of people I've ever, ever dealt with in my life. They lie, they don't show up when they say they will, HELL -- 75% of the time they won't even give me the fricking estimate that they came out to run for me.

I've learned that if you want something done around the house, unless it's a MAJOR project, it's worth it to just learn how to do it and do it yourself. That's what I've done the past four years. Only thing I've paid someone else to do so far is for a bathroom renovation since plumbing had to be moved around inside the slab. I wasn't touching that because that's beyond my abilities.

My advice to you would be to buy rebar and have bags of concrete delivered to you with a mixer rental and pour the slab yourself. Youtube is your best friend for stuff like this. I promise it's not as hard as you think it is.
Posted by Crusty
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
2429 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 1:31 pm to
15' x 30' x 4" slab would require a lot of bags and A LOT of hand mixing! I'd call a concrete company and rent a Georgia buggy for the day.
Posted by FishinTygah84
LA
Member since Dec 2013
1976 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 2:25 pm to
I just cleared and formed a 12’ 4” x 24’6” And averaged about 5 inches deep. Paid 742 for 5 yards of concrete. And paid a guy 1900 to do all the work. He brought the Georgia buggy, wire mesh, rebar, drilled into my existing slabs, etc.
Posted by MaxDraft
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2019
558 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 3:45 pm to
That's a good deal
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38794 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 4:01 pm to
quote:

Every contractor out there reading this can go screw themselves.

simmer down

there is a vast gulf between a homebuilder/residential contractor and a guy who does odd residential repair/small jobs. what is required is an understanding by the homeowner that his/her three or four figure project is nearly impossible to make money on in a vacuum. you need dozens of these jobs, stacked up, to make enough money to be worth the effort.

weather, delays, material availability, staff issues, and yes the homeowner himself often conspire to make that delicate scheduling difficult, and in that environment starting a new job before you are certain you can do it profitably is a bad idea.

what i am getting at is this...your typical small residential project is a considerable risk to the contractor, and as the owner you need to understand that and plan accordingly. or...do it yourself
Posted by reggo75
Iowa, LA
Member since Jan 2016
1433 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 10:44 am to
quote:

That's a good deal


12' x 24' is 288 sq ft. at a cost of $2600.

$9/sq ft seems a little high to me.
I have been getting some quotes recently in the Lake Charles area in the $4-$5 sq ft range for a turnkey job of 970 sq ft.
Posted by cuyahoga tiger
NE Ohio via Tangipahoa
Member since Nov 2011
5836 posts
Posted on 5/30/20 at 11:10 am to
410 sq ft. total....350 sf 4”, 60 sq ft 6”... tear out existing and replace ... $8/ sq ft
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
17918 posts
Posted on 5/30/20 at 1:42 pm to
quote:

Every contractor out there reading this can go screw themselves.

It brings me great joy that this is how you'd do a 5.5 square pour.
quote:

have bags of concrete delivered to you with a mixer rental and pour the slab yourself.

This post was edited on 5/30/20 at 1:45 pm
Posted by Sheepdog1833
Member since Feb 2019
685 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 6:36 am to
quote:

there is a vast gulf between a homebuilder/residential contractor and a guy who does odd residential repair/small jobs.


I’ll echo this. For every ten small jobs I quote, which takes time and money by the way, I may get an email back to say I didn’t get the job. I may only get one out of twenty. And there are two reasons why my prices are higher. I pay my labor legitimately, paying taxes and 941s. Also I carry commercial insurance. I’ve seen it so many times that the same people who claim to want to buy local, buy American, don’t want to actually pay for that. They pay for the cheapest rate possible from a Mom and Pop who don’t carry those burdens. In those situations, I’m never competing against someone who pays their fair share or legally operates in the true business environment.
So be it, I’m not a victim here. But there’s your explanation why you don’t get return calls from contractors.

I looked at a job this past week for a family member’s friend for a concrete addition which included forming, digging footings, steel and vapor barrier placement, and two pours. He casualty mentioned that his last quote was $10,000. I started the work up and his concrete alone was $7200. I stopped there and let him know that I couldn’t beat it. There’s no room for me to even cover expenses at that rate. The point is, I get these calls all the time for small jobs because people think they want reputable contractors to do the work but 80-90% of the time they only want the cheapest bid. Which is fine if you want to take the risk. Imagine in this example if they screw up 70yds of concrete and you’ve got to “fix” that.
Posted by AncientTiger
Mississippi- Louisiana - Destin
Member since Sep 2016
1380 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 3:55 pm to
The best contractor's are the ones always busy. My recommendation, is Hugo Flores. Hugo rebuilt our home after the 2016 flood. Hugo built a beautiful 20 x 24 attached cypress patio, including a concrete pour. Hugo is currently working on a huge cypress project in our backyard.....he's the best IMHO. Hugo & crew drive from the Kenner area to work on my project.

Hugo Flores
(504) 239-7450
bctsconstruction.com

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