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re: Citrus ID please

Posted on 9/16/19 at 1:19 pm to
Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
6163 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 1:19 pm to
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Mature citrus are more cold tolerate than immature citrus, but only to a limited degree.


Well duh...


j/k
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 1:31 pm to
Ok, now that I know y'all are in CenLA, it's almost certainly a satsuma. Satsuma varieties are the most cold-tolerant of all citrus, with some surviving down into the teens for 12+ hr stretches. It's a good sized tree, and y'all get routine killing frosts (unlike we folks down on the coast). So it is certainly not a lemon, lime, and likely not a grapefruit: all of those will be killed down to the root by temps in the teens.

It might be a tangerine or tangelo, but it's probably a satsuma. It might be a sweet orange. Pay close attention to the fruit's shape as it matures. Sweet oranges stay quite round, and many satsuma fruits flatten out a bit as they get sugary.

Navel oranges....have a navel. Easily identified, no?
Posted by EveryoneGetsATrophy
Member since Nov 2017
2907 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 4:09 pm to
Hard to tell from the picture but the skin on the fruit looks too smooth to be a satsuma. Going with an orange(Valencia, Blood or Navel).
Posted by REB BEER
Laffy Yet
Member since Dec 2010
16250 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 7:54 pm to
I could be wrong, but it looks just like the grapefruit tree in my backyard. This thread reminds me I need to cut that POS down. I hate grapefruits
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81745 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 8:32 pm to
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I hate grapefruits
Once softballs were invented, there was no more need for grapefruit.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56508 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 7:51 am to
The grapefruit tree in my wifes old grandparents backyard in Lake Arthur makes grapefruits that are so good they dont even taste like grapefruit.
Posted by REB BEER
Laffy Yet
Member since Dec 2010
16250 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 7:59 am to
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The grapefruit tree in my wifes old grandparents backyard in Lake Arthur makes grapefruits that are so good they dont even taste like grapefruit.


The one in my backyard makes the most disgusting fruit with the most seeds you've ever seen. It was there when we bought the house 3 years ago and is a nice pretty mature tree, but I'd rather cut it down and plant something that we actually could enjoy to eat.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56508 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 8:01 am to
This tree is crazy. It makes these yellow thin skinned fruit. Pink grapefruit that is sweet with a hint of grapefruit nasty. So good I hand squeeze them and make drinks with them during the holidays we are there.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81745 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 9:25 am to
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So good I hand squeeze them and make drinks with them during the holidays we are there.
Should I buy rum or vodka?
Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
6163 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 10:27 am to
Sounds kind of like a Ruby Red, but I think they have thicker skin.

quote:

AlxTgr


If Ruby Red, definitely vodka. Perfect summer/beach drink
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56508 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 12:26 pm to
Vodka. Makes a helluva salty dog
Posted by rodnreel
South La.
Member since Apr 2011
1326 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 2:33 pm to
Instead of reading 30-40 unreliable answers why don't you go knock on the home owners front door, ask what type of tree it is and report back to us.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56508 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 2:53 pm to
quote:

you go knock on the home owners front door, ask what type of tree it is and report back to us.
I am a little rusty on my Chinese. If I was asking for a table fir two or ice water w my buffet I would be set. But variations of citrus may present some issues.

Before you get all PC they own a few of the Chinese buffets around town. I have a gift card to them from each of the 8 Christmas we have lived here....made out to the previous home owners. Believe me, we don’t favor.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81745 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 3:25 pm to
quote:

Instead of reading 30-40 unreliable answers why don't you go knock on the home owners front door, ask what type of tree it is and report back to us.


I asked about the squash growing on their fence. The only one willing to speak to me really could not explain it to me in English.
Posted by dartman
baton rouge
Member since Nov 2015
172 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 6:09 pm to
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Do they become cold tolerant with age?


If it's a satsuma, no.... I lost a mature tree when it snowed a couple winters ago. If temps get near or below 20 degrees, they're toast...
Posted by avondale88
Montgomery
Member since May 2009
2634 posts
Posted on 9/19/19 at 8:36 pm to
I have a lemon and a satsuma tree in my back yard. The first year they produced fruit, the satsumas were sweet with hardly any seeds in them and the lemons were like the lemons that you buy in a grocery store. However last year the fruit that both trees produced were very strange. The fruit was identical on the two trees. The fruit was hard to peel and when you cut one open, it wasn't a lemon or a satsuma. The fruit ripened but the skin remained green and the fruit was extremely sour and didn't smell or taste like a citrus. I just let that crap on the trees until they fell off. Both trees are showing fruit now. I just hope that the fruit isn't like last years. I would really like to know what happened to my trees to produce nasty, sour citrus. You couldn't eat that crap or cook with it. I really would like to know what is going on with my trees.
Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
6163 posts
Posted on 9/19/19 at 8:45 pm to
That is pretty strange. I wonder if it could be some kind of nutrient deficiency?

Do you fertilize?
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 6:23 am to
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However last year the fruit that both trees produced were very strange. The fruit was identical on the two trees. The fruit was hard to peel and when you cut one open, it wasn't a lemon or a satsuma. The fruit ripened but the skin remained green and the fruit was extremely sour and didn't smell or taste like a citrus. I just let that crap on the trees until they fell off.

Very likely, the rootstock of those trees has sent up suckers and that rootstock is now large enough to flower and fruit. All productive citrus are grafted....a hardy rootstock that only bears inedible sour oranges is the base, and a different variety is grafted to it.

Go out and look carefully at the base of the tree. Look for branches shooting up from the base, below the bud graft. Bud graft can be ID’d as a fatter, slightly swollen looking place on the lower trunk. You need to remove the growth coming from below the rootstock. It is often thorny and angular. Those branches will not produce edible fruit.
Posted by dartman
baton rouge
Member since Nov 2015
172 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 7:18 pm to
Sounds like it might be cross pollination. May have to choose which tree you prefer.
Posted by avondale88
Montgomery
Member since May 2009
2634 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 7:56 pm to
Hey hungryone, I think that you solved my problem. I forgot to mention that some new branches are loaded with thorns that really hurt if they puncture your skin. My trees didn't have thorns last year so this is the first year that I'm seeing thorns. Those thorns really hurt. I'm just going to leave the trees alone and hope for the best. I'm not going to destroy them because they do provide shade and a pair of mocking birds raised a family in one of the trees last spring. Thanks again for figuring out what was wrong with my citrus trees.
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