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re: Can you recommend me a sliding miter saw?
Posted on 10/1/21 at 4:41 pm to Wraytex
Posted on 10/1/21 at 4:41 pm to Wraytex
I have the 12" dewalt sliding miter and it's great. It does jump when you engage the motor. I normally have it stationary but just bought an old house and I'm having to move it around alot. That freaking thing must weigh 200lbs. It's not meant to be portable.
Posted on 10/1/21 at 5:04 pm to AtticusOSullivan
I've got no complaints on the cheap Ryobi 10" i bought about 3 years ago. Want to say it was on sale for like $150.
Posted on 10/1/21 at 6:28 pm to Wraytex
Unless you work in areas with no power then I don't see the advantage of a cordless CSMS. They are great site saws for people that work without electricity but beyond that I don't see the appeal. You set it up and it sits until you finish the job.
The Festool Kapex is a great high precision saw, mine stays set up in the shop for that purpose. It is NOT a saw I would use for framing and it has to do with the way the electronically controlled motor works.
Some people love the Bosch Glider but it is on the expensive side (nothing like the Kapex) and one of the big advantages is it takes up less front to back space, this is an issue with a shop setup, not so much on site. It however is usually accurate out of the box and is easy to adjust unless you get a lemon.
For rough work (certainly can be used for trim too) I have a Milwaukee 6955 which I love. It has a digital handle scale BUT it does not have a built-in laser. You can add one or set up a light for a blade shadow, I don't since I really don't use them because I went my whole life without them and it isn't really much of a help to me on a CSMS, some people "need" them.
CSMS recommendations threads are some of the longest on Sawmill Creek and other woodworking sites which is a testament to the number that are fine for even precision work if you adjust them properly. If you want to spend the money I say get a Bosch Glider but make sure you really need the capacity of a slider since if you don't a non-sliding miter saw will be easier to keep adjusted. If you don't want to spend ~600 or so I say drop back all the way to a Ryobi. If you don't use one all the time a Ryobi can work fine and I wouldn't mind trimming a house with one unless I was doing a bunch of large built up mouldings that I would want a high precision saw for. Putty is your friend.
Again I think the first question is do you really need the capacity of a slider. I always prefer a 12" blade to a 10" on a miter saw, they go about 45% longer between sharpenings. Also, buy a separate quality blade when you start trim work. For an excellent upper-mid level blade I suggest the Freud LU74R012, this is a thin kerf blade and the side grind really leaves a polished edge on either pine or hardwood. Amazon usually has good prices and they have lots of carbide for multiple sharpenings.
The Festool Kapex is a great high precision saw, mine stays set up in the shop for that purpose. It is NOT a saw I would use for framing and it has to do with the way the electronically controlled motor works.
Some people love the Bosch Glider but it is on the expensive side (nothing like the Kapex) and one of the big advantages is it takes up less front to back space, this is an issue with a shop setup, not so much on site. It however is usually accurate out of the box and is easy to adjust unless you get a lemon.
For rough work (certainly can be used for trim too) I have a Milwaukee 6955 which I love. It has a digital handle scale BUT it does not have a built-in laser. You can add one or set up a light for a blade shadow, I don't since I really don't use them because I went my whole life without them and it isn't really much of a help to me on a CSMS, some people "need" them.
CSMS recommendations threads are some of the longest on Sawmill Creek and other woodworking sites which is a testament to the number that are fine for even precision work if you adjust them properly. If you want to spend the money I say get a Bosch Glider but make sure you really need the capacity of a slider since if you don't a non-sliding miter saw will be easier to keep adjusted. If you don't want to spend ~600 or so I say drop back all the way to a Ryobi. If you don't use one all the time a Ryobi can work fine and I wouldn't mind trimming a house with one unless I was doing a bunch of large built up mouldings that I would want a high precision saw for. Putty is your friend.
Again I think the first question is do you really need the capacity of a slider. I always prefer a 12" blade to a 10" on a miter saw, they go about 45% longer between sharpenings. Also, buy a separate quality blade when you start trim work. For an excellent upper-mid level blade I suggest the Freud LU74R012, this is a thin kerf blade and the side grind really leaves a polished edge on either pine or hardwood. Amazon usually has good prices and they have lots of carbide for multiple sharpenings.
Posted on 10/1/21 at 10:08 pm to Obtuse1
I meant to mention there is one tool that is indispensable for running trim and that is a miter protractor. I prefer the Starrett metals ones and fine the 7" version is more useful than the 12". The metal ones are somewhat pricy but they make a plastic one you can find for $12-15 (or cheaper). You can often find the metal ones on eBay for around $40 shipped, you just have to keep looking.
Starrett
Youtube video that shows how to use them, there are several more also if you care to search
YT
Starrett
Youtube video that shows how to use them, there are several more also if you care to search
YT
Posted on 10/2/21 at 12:24 am to Obtuse1
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Unless you work in areas with no power then I don't see the advantage of a cordless CSMS. They are great site saws for people that work without electricity but beyond that I don't see the appeal. You set it up and it sits until you finish the job.
For a DIYer that would be the case but for those that can have multiple jobsites in a day or just want something that can handle average dimensional lumber that's lighter and more capable capacity wise than a single bevel 10" or something for hardwood/engineered flooring then they offer distinct advantages. Or simply someone who would only use one occaisonally and already have cordless tools in the same system. I run mine with either a 6Ah 20V or equivalent 60V battery and it has impressive cutting longevity, even in wet treated lumber.
Posted on 2/5/22 at 2:31 pm to Obtuse1
2-22 Update
I've been using the old Porter for a Barndominium build out and finally ordered a 10" metabo 36V slider, Menards has it on sale for the same price with either the 110 power supply or batter and charger. I haven't ordered the 110v power supply yet as I'm going to be using this for cabinetry and trim. The porter has been doing well for the 2x6 framing at the barndo.
Metabo 36V Miter at Menards
I've been using the old Porter for a Barndominium build out and finally ordered a 10" metabo 36V slider, Menards has it on sale for the same price with either the 110 power supply or batter and charger. I haven't ordered the 110v power supply yet as I'm going to be using this for cabinetry and trim. The porter has been doing well for the 2x6 framing at the barndo.
Metabo 36V Miter at Menards
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