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re: 2023 Spring Garden Thread

Posted on 1/16/23 at 12:00 pm to
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26551 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 12:00 pm to
Just ordered my seeds from Harris Seeds.

Goldfinger carrots
Green salad bowl lettuce
Phenomenal cowpea
Sugar baby watermelon
Kentucky blue pole bean
Lacinto kale
Bright light swiss chard

Gonna get to planting the kale and swiss chard on first weekend in February. I'll wait until March to plant the beans, some pepper plants, and a fig tree.

Here is my current plan:

First planting (early February)
Swiss chard x2
Kale x2

Second planting (early March)
Pole beans x2
Pepper plants x2 (likely hot banana or pepperoncini in separate pots because I want to pickle them)

Third planting (early April)
Watermelon
Carrots x2

Fourth planting (fall)
Black eye peas x4
Kale x2
Lettuce x2
This post was edited on 1/16/23 at 12:05 pm
Posted by Butch Baum
Member since Oct 2007
2830 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 4:03 pm to
Pillage, Appreciate all your work on this...not new to Veg gardening but first time with seeds and grow light...how often do you add water- by looking at soil? And starting seeds indoors- keep house at 72-74...Heatmat a definite?
Thanks!
Posted by Tbone2
Member since Jun 2015
581 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 6:51 pm to
I put my seed trays on top of the cabinets in the kitchen, as it's very warm. I use the peat pots and label every plant. As soon as the seed germinates I either bring it into my shop under the florescent lights. I built a shelf and can adjust the height of the lights . I use the 32 cell seed trays and have enough room for 256 plants. If it's in the 40's are better I don't even mess with the lights, I just put them in full sun on a picnic table behind my shop. As an added bonus there is no need to harden them off and they don't get leggy in full sun.
Posted by ChenierauTigre
Dreamland
Member since Dec 2007
34530 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 6:57 pm to
I keep my house at 68. My spinach plants sprouted in 5 days. Also tomatoes and peppers sprouted really quickly. If your house is 72 - 74, you will have to keep an eye on them because your humidity is probably low. For watering, I do the old finger poke.

But Pillage is the ultimate authority. Do what he says.
Posted by Tbone2
Member since Jun 2015
581 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 9:36 pm to
Peppers need soil temps of 75 - 85 for a quick germination. That's why I put them in the warmest spot in my house.
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
Member since May 2011
9388 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 9:51 pm to
Tomatoes and eggplant seeds went in the dirt tonight. Will add some water to the trays tomorrow morning and spray the tops with a mist when the grow light is ready to kick on.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
14799 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 6:26 am to
quote:

how often do you add water- by looking at soil? And starting seeds indoors- keep house at 72-74...Heatmat a definite?


Whenever the soil starts drying out, I add water. I keep my house at about 70 in the winter. But the grow lights put off heat and keep the soil even warmer. I sow seeds and throw them directly under the lights. Although recently I had to move everything into the garage and the temperature fluctuates more in there. I don’t use a heat mat. Don’t think it’s necessary with the way I do it. It ain’t rocket surgery.
Posted by ChenierauTigre
Dreamland
Member since Dec 2007
34530 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 9:14 am to
I could only dream about putting my seed trays on top of my kitchen cabinets. If I wanted to put my pepper plants up there, I would need an 8' ladder. Being a short girl, mine are on the floor in a tray.

I harvested my pepper seeds from the peppers I grew last season. They must be ultra fresh and frisky.
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
5522 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 11:18 am to
Finally got my pepper seeds from Burpee. Will be starting today. They'll get some extra fertilizer between now and March. I may also avoid topping some of them since it took so damn long. Don't want to set them back.
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
Member since May 2011
9388 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 11:21 am to
Has anyone ever picked up coffee grounds from Starbucks or other local coffee shops?

I have a fire ant infestation in my compost pile... apparently it wasn't cooking as well as it should have lately and they moved in. I've read where a considerable load of coffee grounds will run them off.... of course I'll have to rebalance the ratios of the pile afterwards.
Posted by Tbone2
Member since Jun 2015
581 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 11:57 am to
If I had a heat mat, I'd use it for peppers. I've never had any trouble with any other seeds germinating.
Posted by Mr Sausage
Cat Spring, Texas
Member since Oct 2011
12816 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 7:35 pm to
I use a heat mat for peppers and tomatoes. Pepper seeds planted 1/8 and broke surface today.
This post was edited on 1/17/23 at 7:37 pm
Posted by secondandshort
Member since Jan 2014
1028 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 9:13 pm to
quote:

have to rebalance the ratios of the pile afterwards.


What is your ratios? I have a barrel composter but would like to get a larger compost pile going.
Posted by LSUJuice
Back in Houston
Member since Apr 2004
17676 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 9:14 pm to
I've seen 75 for soil for tomato seeds. Is that just optimal and 68 will still do? Or does it really need to stay at 75?
Posted by Mr Sausage
Cat Spring, Texas
Member since Oct 2011
12816 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 9:58 pm to
I don’t know. Like Pillage said, it’s not rocket science. Mine are on a workbench in the garage. It’s been in the 60s at night and 70s during the day in the garage this week.
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
Member since May 2011
9388 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 12:17 am to
quote:

What is your ratios?

Just try to eyeball it putting in more brown than green.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
14799 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 6:27 am to
Water and stir the pile frequently and that should keep the ant problem down. They’ll move on. They help break down the stuff in your compost, so they aren’t all bad. But you definitely don’t want an infestation.
Posted by eng08
Member since Jan 2013
5997 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 7:12 am to
I discussed it with a shop, but they want a daily commitment which I can’t do
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
Member since May 2011
9388 posts
Posted on 1/19/23 at 3:14 pm to
quote:

Water and stir the pile frequently and that should keep the ant problem down. They’ll move on. They help break down the stuff in your compost, so they aren’t all bad. But you definitely don’t want an infestation.


Wow this only took a couple days... much faster than I thought. I doused it heavily and flooded them out to my shed ramp, where I nuked them with Bengal spray.

In other news, it turns out I have room for an additional 4x12 bed in front of the lower one below. Any suggestions on what to do with it? Half may be taken up by just spacing out what I have laid out a little more, but I may have a 4x6 area available. Strawberries?



Posted by gmac8604
Green Bay, WI
Member since Jun 2012
1107 posts
Posted on 1/19/23 at 7:50 pm to
Ditto.
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