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re: 2023 Spring Garden Thread
Posted on 1/3/23 at 11:33 pm to DarthTiger
Posted on 1/3/23 at 11:33 pm to DarthTiger
So if you are planning on a number of plants, how many seeded plugs do you plant? And if they all sprout, what do you do with the extras?
Posted on 1/4/23 at 12:19 am to Centinel
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I've grown the midnight snack several years. Super plentiful fruits and very tasty. My wife's favorite cherry variety.
Thanks for the feedback! Looking forward to trying them.
Posted on 1/4/23 at 9:13 am to CarRamrod
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So if you are planning on a number of plants, how many seeded plugs do you plant? And if they all sprout, what do you do with the extras?
I do 4 seeds per pot for just about everything and then thin it to the strongest plant by just snipping the extras down at the base. I usually pot a couple extra plants more than what I intend on planting out. Any extra seedlings I ask family and friends if they'd like them. If I can't give them away they end up compost.
Posted on 1/4/23 at 10:12 am to PillageUrVillage
quote:im assuming you are planting in smaller pots and not a seed starter tray right?
I do 4 seeds per pot
so are those 4 seeds in the same hole or quartered in the pot.
Posted on 1/4/23 at 10:27 am to CarRamrod
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im assuming you are planting in smaller pots and not a seed starter tray right?
Correct. I start everything out in 4" pots in hopes that I can just keep them in there and not have to continually transplant them into bigger pots before plant out. That may not be the best practice for everyone. But it's been working for me.
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so are those 4 seeds in the same hole or quartered in the pot.
Quartered, but all pretty close to the center.
I'll see if I can find a past picture as an example.
ETA: from last spring. Pepper seedlings just coming up. And then some tomato plants after they had been thinned to one plant.


This post was edited on 1/4/23 at 10:38 am
Posted on 1/4/23 at 10:54 am to PillageUrVillage
My tomatoes are two feet tall and blooming in my house. Rescued them from the compost pile before the first cold snap. 

Posted on 1/4/23 at 11:02 am to ChenierauTigre
I need to start over on strawberries. Am I too late for this season? Will I see plants at the home stores?
Posted on 1/4/23 at 11:09 am to PillageUrVillage
I am trying to overwinter my pepper plants from last season. I have 12 plants in a closet sitting at a constant 60 degrees. They get 8 hours of 5000k grow lighting per day currently. They are in one gallon pots. I cut them down to their first y section so they look like bare sticks in the soil right now. I hope this works since they are taking up the bulk of my growing space for seedlings right now.
Posted on 1/4/23 at 11:20 am to AlxTgr
That is a question for Pillage. I don't mess with strawberries.
Posted on 1/4/23 at 12:55 pm to AlxTgr
I am not sure if you will get much this season. I have not seen any strawberry plants in stores though.
Posted on 1/4/23 at 12:58 pm to PillageUrVillage
do the cheap led grow lights work? only time i have tried the trays, i got stuff to sprout but seemed one the stem cam up with stalled out growth. Would that be the light, not very fertile soil(i used some old stuff i had), both? do you water with fertilizer after sprouting...
I know its a lot of questions, i was just shocked last fall how i got everything to sprout but growth stalled.
I know its a lot of questions, i was just shocked last fall how i got everything to sprout but growth stalled.
Posted on 1/4/23 at 1:00 pm to AlxTgr
You should be able to get some bare root strawberries online.
Posted on 1/4/23 at 1:00 pm to AlxTgr
The ag center extensions are done for the season. My local Nursery has a large batch of Florida Brilliance. Said they were trying to get some Camarosa after the 1st. You'll see your normal bare root bundles for sale at the big boxes.
Posted on 1/4/23 at 2:20 pm to Longer Tail Tiger
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By the way, I've never had any problems with squash borers or found any need to use insecticides growing them.
You are very lucky. Maybe it's your area. The squash borers are really bad in the Houston area. I know a lot of folks that have just given up planting them. It's a shame because they grow so well.
If anyone has squash borer tips, please share!
Posted on 1/4/23 at 3:06 pm to AlxTgr
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I need to start over on strawberries. Am I too late for this season? Will I see plants at the home stores?
I usually see strawberry plants at the box stores in the spring. Fall is a more ideal time to plant them, but you can plant them in the spring as well. You just may not get much production out of them until the next spring.
The garden center that I get my bare root plants from usually takes whatever they don’t sell at the end of fall and pot them up to sell the plants in the spring. I’m hoping to get a few from them to fill in some of the gaps I have in the strawberry patch.
Posted on 1/4/23 at 3:28 pm to LaLadyinTx
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If anyone has squash borer tips, please share!
I had some decent success against them on my pumpkins this past year. But it was a lot of work. Before the plants started flowering I had them covered with a fine mesh netting. Once the netting was removed I’d spray Bt twice a week, thoroughly inspect vines and the underside of the leaves often and squish any eggs that I’d find, inspect vines for entry points, and on a couple of occasions I had to surgically remove the bastards.
I bought a pheromone trap to hang nearby. Those are only good for trapping the male moths. But it’s a good indicator of when they are around and let’s you know when to be vigilant. And the fewer males out there to mate with the females, the better. Although I’m sure the impact on the population is negligible.

One thing I’m going to try this year is plant a trap crop of blue hubbard squash. It supposedly has one of the highest levels of cucurbitacin in cucurbit plants, which is what the moths are attracted to. I’m going to grow it in a big pot and use a systemic insecticide to kill any borers. I bought some bioadvanced tree and shrub insect control from Lowes. Primary active ingredient is Imidacloprid. I read all of this on a pumpkin growing forum and I doubt I’d be able to find it now. But basically you plant the blue hubbard squash well ahead of your primary crop. Water in the systemic insecticide. And prune off any flower buds before they open to protect pollinators. Some also suggested putting yellow sticky traps by the base of the plant to help trap female vine borer moths. I’ll try that, but if I start catching any bees I’ll get rid of them.
Disclaimer: This is all an experiment for me and will probably involve some trial and error. So I have no prior experience or success with this.
As an extra precaution on my zucchini and straightneck squash this spring I’ll try injecting Bt. That’s something that is entirely too tedious to try to do on miles of pumpkin vines.

ETA: There were some posters last year that had success growing squash in hay bales. The claim was the vine borers don’t mess with squash grown in hay, but I’m not sure how that works.
This post was edited on 1/4/23 at 3:42 pm
Posted on 1/4/23 at 6:39 pm to Devious
Now that I'm back home, I'll share my plans...8 rows, 75' long. Was going to add in two rotator rows for next year, but I'll be moving it before I need to worry about that.
Adding potatoes and wanting to put up much more this year.

Adding potatoes and wanting to put up much more this year.

Posted on 1/4/23 at 9:21 pm to LaLadyinTx
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If anyone has squash borer tips, please share!
We have serious borer issues here (SELA).
I dust the vines (not the flowers) with Sevin. I use a turkey baster to make sure it only gets on the vines. I know it’s not everyone’s thing, but it works very well until I get lazy with it. I’ve tried a lot because we love squash and nothing else has worked. The alternative is I get maybe 2 fruits off the plant and I figure it’s still better than what I’d buy at the store
Posted on 1/5/23 at 10:16 am to eng08
I’ve been growing all sorts of cucurbits for years with the exception of squash and pumpkin. Never seen a SVB in my life. The second I plant pumpkins, they show up. It’s amazing.
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