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Sidicous
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For those of us in the South where bamboo grows wild and want to grow vine plants, like I did cucumbers and pumpkins (they stressed it but it worked for some medium (foot or so diameter) sized fruits):

Wild bamboo from the other side of my land. Just lopped it off, trimmed the leaves off, used string to secure the cross poles. Only lasts 1 full growing season and does not root. Sturdy enough to survive really strong storms even when laden with fruits/veggies.




I tidied it up some after this so it actually looked better. Just didn't have more pics saved.
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BallsEleven
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Guys, any way I can slow these things down?


Yeah, use the crappy arse light I’m using

I like that bamboo idea. That’s a great (free) way to make a trellis.


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I like that bamboo idea. That’s a great (free) way to make a trellis.
If you have them, zip ties work well to tie the cross beams.


bluemoons
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My starts are all doing very well. I will probably top some of my peppers next week.

Last year, I potted my seed starts up into regular potting mix (Happy Frog). I struggled with fungus gnats like hell, and had to spray the starts with neem oil like once a week. This year, I potted them up into the same Jiffy Mix that I started them in and I've had zero problems with fungus gnats. Lesson learned: sterile mix makes a huge difference.

I've been lazy with photos but I will take some soon.


jyoung1
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I usually mix boilling water with my soil before planting seeds, haven’t had knat issues since doing that.
Do have mold though and I know it’s from over watering, but I feel like there’s no way around it because the mold always comes back even if i let the soil be dry for 2-3 days.


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Thanks everyone for the advice.

I was thinking of a 4x8 raised bed And I am located in St Amant.

My family loves berries, green beans, cucumbers, and peppers, broccoli Also is seems poor sport to not have some tomatos.

Is this even possible in a small raised bed? Also am I too late to get started?


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lsurulzes88
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I have a few flats of tomatoes that got left out and rained on last night. About half of them look like they weathered it just fine. I'm worried that the other half may have gotten too much, as they were laid over with water this morning when I checked them. I have the plastic back up covering them from the rain the rest of the week. Any experience with how those that were laid over may fare?


PillageUrVillage
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Should be fine as long as they didn’t break. They’ll bounce back.


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Try cheap ground cinnamon sprinkled on it


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BUMP FOR WEEKDAY CREW

Thanks everyone for the advice.

I was thinking of a 4x8 raised bed And I am located in St Amant.

My family loves berries, green beans, cucumbers, and peppers, broccoli Also is seems poor sport to not have some tomatos.

Is this even possible in a small raised bed? Also am I too late to get started?


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DumpsterFire
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I built a 4x8 raised bed last year, and it worked great. I think that is a great size for a starter garden.

I was late to the game last year, so I just bought all my plants from Walmart/Home Depot. 4x8 doesn't seem like a lot, but when all your plants have gotten full grown, it can still be a lot of work (and fun)!


bluemoons
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I topped some of my pepper starts last night. I've found that the bell peppers don't respond that well to it, so those stayed intact.

Everything is doing pretty well. I've got a couple of tomatoes whose lower leaves shriveled and fell off. The new growth looks fine though so I think it's probably just a lack of light getting to the bottom because they're crowded. Coming along nicely though. The smaller seedlings are just stuff I started later/don't really care about.







PillageUrVillage
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What’s that to the left of the tomatoes? Is it cucumbers?


fillmoregandt
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I started six shishito seeds this morning


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CrawDude
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Is this even possible in a small raised bed? Also am I too late to get started?

Never to late to start. I’ve made my beds 3 feet wide to insure reaching the middle of the bed from either side is easy (and I’m 6 2) but don’t exceed 4 ft. Do your best to place the bed(s) in full sun. 8+ hours per day.
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My family loves berries, green beans, cucumbers, and peppers, broccoli Also is seems poor sport to not have some tomatos.

You need more than 1 bed to growth all that. Plant spacing - tomatoes, 2-3 feet, cucumbers, 1 1/2 feet; beans, a few inches; peppers, 1 1/2 - 2 ft; broccoli, 1 1/2-2 ft. Add more beds as if needed and if you have the space.

Make sure that you leave enough space between parallel beds to mow, and I orientate my beds in the same direction I mow, but my vegetable beds are in the backyard lawn, so ease of lawn maintenance was a consideration in my layout.

What kind of berries you thinking of? Blackberries, blueberries? Those require dedicated planting beds.


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bluemoons
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Cucumbers and tiger zucchini, which grows exceptionally fast ha.


PillageUrVillage
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Explain the pepper topping. Does it make the grow bushier? What’s the benefit?

I read about this before but don’t really remember.


BallsEleven
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A lot of my plants ended up real leggy. Mostly because of low light and the heat mat left on too long. I'm doing a half arse restart with a few more seeds and let nature decide which were the strongest by setting them out on a windy day this past week. Ended up only losing a handful of plants.

I'll cut the mat off as soon as I get sprouts and will be able to move them out more often with the mild weather we should be getting soon.

Garlic is looking strong though in the garden. I think next winter I will use up the whole bed with it since I haven't had to touch it at all and am most looking forward to it.

I found a few blossoms on my meyer lemon (still don't know what I'll do with the lemons but it was free) but nothing on the satsuma or ruby red yet. I might try getting a cutting from the satsuma and starting that over since I jacked up pruning it a few years back.

The 3 of the 4 blueberries are loaded with flowers along with the blackberry. The single blueberry was in mostly shade but has since been moved into full sun. I'm thinking about separating the blackberry and having a second bush going in the ground as opposed to in the pot. I'll look it up later but I'm guessing I can just separate roots where I have secondary shoots coming up out the soil and plant that.

I don't expect anything from the apple trees this year. The one that got hit hard by cedar apple rust ended up pulling through, but I have a feeling it will be a constant battle with that particular variety. The other was able to fight it off with little help from me. It's more of a "southern" type (Cinnamon Spice) than the other (Winter Banana) though. I doubt we got enough chills hours here though which wouldn't be a bad thing so it can take this next year and get some more growth.


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bluemoons
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There's a lot out there about it and many different opinions. I've experimented with it a decent amount. The idea is that when the plant gets at least two sets of true leaves, you clip off the growing tip. This forces the plant to grow outward, which results in more sidegrowth, a stockier main stalk, and ultimately, more flowers.

I've tried it with every single type of pepper seed start that I've grown, and my conclusions have been that with certain plants, it makes a world of difference. Others, not so much. Last year, I planted out two of each type of pepper I started. One was topped, the other was not. I've had excellent results topping all of my chili pepper plants (hot wax, jalapeno, serrano, etc.). I also top my "smaller" sweet peppers, like Jimmy Nardello, Shishito (when I grew them), lunchbox, and smaller bullhorn peppers like Carmen.

My experience is that with the bigger, stockier fruits, topping doesn't work as well. This is particularly so with bell types with thicker walls. It definitely makes the main stalk stronger and stockier, but my topped bell plants kinda stunted and didn't grow that well. I also found that while I had more branch growth, the branches themselves were thinner and thus more likely to break during wind events with heavier bell peppers on them. I've researched this online and I think it may have something to do with bell pepper type plants requiring more energy to make fruit because of the thicker walls.


PillageUrVillage
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Thanks. Good info. I may try it with a few of my jalapeño and Cayenne plants.

Meanwhile, I got my results back from the soil lab. They pretty much said “you don’t need to add anything.”


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