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Posted on 1/17/20 at 12:02 pm to
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 1/17/20 at 12:02 pm to
I keep all of my spare seeds in the bottom drawer of my nightstand.

Haven’t had any go bad yet.
Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
6163 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 12:32 pm to
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I have them in ziplocks in my spare fridge


Same. Although my wife would probably appreciate it more if I put them in our outdoor fridge instead of the main one.

Just like she thanked me when I moved my seed tray from our bathroom counter to the garage shed.

Posted by jyoung1
Lafayette
Member since May 2010
2123 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 2:56 pm to
What's a good bell pepper variety?

Or even a pepper used for similiar types of eating/cooking.
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
15095 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 3:36 pm to
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What's a good bell pepper variety?


I grow California Wonder variety, which are basically what is found in the stores. They are 55 days till green and about 70 days till red. As they change color, they also change in texture and sweetness as the flesh gets a bit softer and sweeter as they go from green to red.

Poblana are also a good pepper for both cooking with and stuffing as they are very mild so no worry about heat like some varieties of peppers.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
14773 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 3:52 pm to
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I grow California Wonder variety,


I grew these last year and they were great.

I still have yet to grow Carmen peppers. I hear they are also a great mild/sweet pepper. I started some last year. But, I had to leave town for several weeks, so I gambled and put them in the ground early (mid February). Yeah, a freeze killed them and everything else I planted. So, I'm trying Carmen peppers again this year. I will wait till April to put them in the ground if I have to.
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
5512 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 3:56 pm to
Carmens are great. The walls aren't as thick as bell peppers, but they're good for stuffing, sauteing, salads, etc.

eta: I also grow California Wonders. They do well here. This year I added Nikita, Islander, and Big Red just to mix it up.
This post was edited on 1/17/20 at 4:08 pm
Posted by jyoung1
Lafayette
Member since May 2010
2123 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 4:21 pm to
California Wonders and Carmen were the 2 main ones that I was gonna do.
This post was edited on 1/17/20 at 4:22 pm
Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
6163 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 8:37 pm to
I’ve started using poblano instead of belle peppers recently. Mostly dishes that need them sautéed.

I like the flavor and texture difference.
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
5512 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 11:32 pm to
I like poblanos as well but the plants are so damn big. I’m not growing one this year just because of how much space it wound up requiring. Very productive plant though.
Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
6163 posts
Posted on 1/18/20 at 11:13 am to
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the plants are so damn big


Glad you said something. I was thinking of trying it out

How big are we talking? I’ve only seen 24-36”
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
5512 posts
Posted on 1/18/20 at 4:52 pm to
My poblano plant was the biggest pepper plant I’ve ever grown. Highly productive but it was easily 50” tall and very wide. My garden is a raised bed with 12” sides, and the plant was eye level to me. I plant using the square foot method and honestly the poblano behaved a lot more like a tomato in that regard. I had to prune it back often.

I also topped the plant when it was a seedling, so that may have had something to do with how wide it got. Surprised that it got so damn tall though. YMMV. It could’ve just been the seed strain I got. Really like the peppers though.
Posted by lsuson
Metairie
Member since Oct 2013
12166 posts
Posted on 1/19/20 at 1:27 am to
Save those seeds! If you did and have extra I’ll take some!
Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
6163 posts
Posted on 1/19/20 at 7:06 pm to
Gotcha. I might wait and see if I have any empty space after I plant everything else. I’ll probably get the seeds any way and throw a few in a pot to see what happens.
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
5512 posts
Posted on 1/19/20 at 7:17 pm to
It’s worth it. The poblanos set really well in the heat too so you won’t be hurt planting them later. I didn’t save any seeds for that plant unfortunately.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
14773 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 2:49 pm to
Can't get anything done with this weather we've been having. Everything is staying too wet. And I hate these short days.
Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
6163 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 12:42 pm to
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Can't get anything done with this weather we've been having.


Same. But somehow another garlic clove sprouted so now I'm 37 for 40.

All my seeds sprouted great except the lettuce. It seems trickier than the others.
Posted by BayouBengalRubicon
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2019
377 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 4:26 pm to
Thanks for the Poblano pepper recommendation, loved it, so I'm going to grow some.

Got a tiller for $75 off CL, put a new carb in it today, and got to tilling! How much compost and fertilizer should I till in with the soil? Do y'all recommend 12" or 18" row widths?
Posted by 2 Jugs
Saint Amant
Member since Feb 2018
1851 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 8:08 am to
Hey guys.

I need to get my soil down from 7.0 ph to 6.2-6.8 ph in the 2 boxes I plan on planting my tomatoes this year.

Any recommendations on doing this.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
14773 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 8:18 am to
Any big box store should have some garden lime. They usually have good instructions on the label that tells you how much to add to lower your soil ph.

ETA: shite, I’m sorry. That’s to raise soil ph.

Major derp moment for me.

I’ll leave my mistake and wear it as a scarlet letter. Home Depot sells Espoma soil acidifier. It’s mostly a sulfur based product. Same thing with the label. The instructions are pretty easy to follow.

I haven’t had my coffee yet. Anyway, my tomato sprouts are growing well.


ETA 2: adding compost and pine needles will naturally lower your soil ph over time.
This post was edited on 1/25/20 at 8:28 am
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5266 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 8:59 am to
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I need to get my soil down from 7.0 ph to 6.2-6.8 ph in the 2 boxes I plan on planting my tomatoes this year. Any recommendations on doing this.

Ideally elemental sulfur - you can purchase HiYield brand in small 4 lb bags (?) at most hardware stores or retail plants nurseries. General application rate is best determined with a soil test analysis by the LSU AgCenter STPAL lab, but instructions on the back of the elemental sulfur bag will provide you a guideline recommendation. With a pH of 7, you are so close to a desirable pH you really don’t need much, if any at all. Be aware elemental sulfur works slowly to lower soil pH - takes 3 or 4 months.

You could lower it more quickly with iron sulfate (copperas) or aluminum sulfate (alum), both sold in small bags by HiYield, but I would personally go with elemental sulfur given your existing pH and where you desire to lower it.

ETA: see Table 2 in this article for elemental sulfur application rate guidelines. LINK
This post was edited on 1/25/20 at 9:46 am
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