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re: Why don’t we hear much about alcohol and the effect on the heart?

Posted on 1/20/25 at 12:15 pm to
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 1/20/25 at 12:15 pm to
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Alcohol may or may not impact your lifespan.


There’s just no way you believe that
Posted by ronricks
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Posted on 1/20/25 at 12:16 pm to
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This thread is shocking. You seem to be a relatively smart dude. A little incely, but not stupid. This changes that as there is absolutely no way anyone with a modicum of intelligence could argue what you are arguing.


You have to be trolling at this point. We are not all the same not are we going to have same or even similar results to what he had. That’s not how any of this works.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 1/20/25 at 12:17 pm to
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We are not all the same
Not a single person is arguing that
Posted by ronricks
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Posted on 1/20/25 at 12:19 pm to
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There’s just no way you believe that


Do all alcoholics die at same age? Do all alcoholics drink the same amount? Do they all drink the same form of alcohol? Do all alcoholics die of same cause?

I feel like I’m talking to a child.
Posted by ronricks
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Posted on 1/20/25 at 12:22 pm to
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Not a single person is arguing that


You are arguing the results of that though. Is genetic predisposition a thing?
Does it exist? Let’s start there. Then we can argue what comes next.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 1/20/25 at 12:22 pm to
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Do all alcoholics die at same age?
Are you drunk?


Person A drinks every day

Person A never drinks

Same person. Do you think their heart health is identical in both scenarios?
This post was edited on 1/20/25 at 12:25 pm
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 1/20/25 at 12:23 pm to
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You are arguing the results of that though. Is genetic predisposition a thing?
You are too stupid to continue conversing with
This post was edited on 1/20/25 at 12:25 pm
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 1/20/25 at 12:25 pm to
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You are too stupid to continue conversing with


I feel like I’m taking no crazy pills
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
10982 posts
Posted on 1/20/25 at 12:25 pm to
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No, your heart is not impervious to the effects of alcohol



How much volume of alcohol?
What kind of alcohol?
How many times a week of alcohol?

There are literally several metrics at play here. (I don’t drink btw)

Tell me what my numbers would be with your exact alcohol intake. You can’t. It’s impossible.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/20/25 at 12:27 pm to
Saquon Barkley should never work out

He was born with his genetics. Working out is dumb he can’t change anything about how fast or strong he is.

Right?
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
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Posted on 1/20/25 at 12:27 pm to
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You are too stupid to continue conversing with


Lord have mercy. Not everyone on here is going to have same results as you. Why? Because it doesn’t fricking work that way. If you don’t believe me go talk to a MD. They will tell you.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/20/25 at 12:28 pm to
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Not everyone on here is going to have same results as you. Why?
nobody is saying that

But anyone here who drinks will have positive cardiovascular results if they stop. Find an MD stupid enough to argue against that
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
10982 posts
Posted on 1/20/25 at 12:29 pm to
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He was born with his genetics. Working out is dumb he can’t change anything about how fast or strong he is.

Right?


Has zilch to do with internal organs. You aren’t comparing apples to apples. Walter Payton died at 46. He worked out. Right? Why did he die so young?
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
10982 posts
Posted on 1/20/25 at 12:30 pm to
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But anyone here who drinks will have positive cardiovascular results if they stop. Find an MD stupid enough to argue against that


To what degree? That’s been my whole point. Think about this.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 1/20/25 at 12:30 pm to
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Lord have mercy. Not everyone on here is going to have same results as you. Why? Because it doesn’t fricking work that way. If you don’t believe me go talk to a MD. They will tell you.


You keep repeating this as if that’s what he’s saying. It’s insane how fricking dumb you’re making yourself look.

And Pride looks like a fricking moron 99% of the time
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 1/20/25 at 12:32 pm to
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To what degree? That’s been my whole point.


To which quite literally no one has commented on. And you keep saying it in response to saying alcohol has some affect on the individual consuming it.

Again, it’s like beyond comprehension how stupid your argument is
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
10982 posts
Posted on 1/20/25 at 12:36 pm to
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You keep repeating this as if that’s what he’s saying. It’s insane how fricking dumb you’re making yourself look.


Nothing he is saying pertains to me because I don’t even drink you fricking idiot. Even if I did he and I may or may not have comparable experiences regarding heart, liver, or kidney health because we are completely different people.

It’s why some people can smoke 4 packs a day and quit and die in 5 years and someone else might do exact same and quit and live another 20 years. Do you fricking understand this?
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 1/20/25 at 12:39 pm to
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Nothing he is saying pertains to me because I don’t even drink you fricking idiot.


What does this have to do with anything?

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Even if I did he and I may or may not have comparable experiences regarding heart, liver, or kidney health because we are completely different people


We understand this and have never stated otherwise

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Do you fricking understand this?


Of course, that doesn’t make your original premise that alcohol may or may not affect an individuals health at all any less fricking asinine
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
10982 posts
Posted on 1/20/25 at 12:40 pm to
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To which quite literally no one has commented on. And you keep saying it in response to saying alcohol has some affect on the individual consuming it.


Mingo. You and I go to a bar. We both drink 6 beers in 20 minutes. What happens? Are we both going to experience same results? Why or why not?
Do you understand there are different variables and metrics at play here? Do you have any ability to think about this? Any nuance at all?
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
10982 posts
Posted on 1/20/25 at 12:43 pm to
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Of course, that doesn’t make your original premise that alcohol may or may not affect an individuals health at all any less fricking asinine


To what degree? We are all different people. I don’t care what his experiences are. Doesn’t mean I will have same results or reactions in the same stratosphere. This has never been an all or nothing discussion. It can’t be because we are all different. I’m not the one that’s trying to argue in absolutes. It’s been the exact opposite which you guys don’t understand for some reason.
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