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When will people figure out that doctors severely lack ethics?
Posted on 9/19/18 at 5:02 pm
Posted on 9/19/18 at 5:02 pm
State of California is suing AbbVie in this instance due to a pretty widespread kick back program involving doctors who are complicit here.
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Just absolutely wretched behavior by people that we're supposed to trust with our health
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According to the complaint, AbbVie's gave illegal kickbacks to doctors over more than four years, between 2013 and August of this year. During that time, private insurers processed more than 274,000 claims for coverage of Humira treatment for California patients, paying out nearly $1.3 billion.
That makes the case the largest health insurance fraud case in the Department's history, the commissioners' office said.
Just absolutely wretched behavior by people that we're supposed to trust with our health
Posted on 9/19/18 at 5:47 pm to Powerman
I wish you’d put this on the OT so some of the sanctimonious doctors would respond. Scruffy claims there’s no such thing as kickbacks.
Posted on 9/19/18 at 5:52 pm to StringedInstruments
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Scruffy claims there’s no such thing as kickbacks.
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According to the complaint, AbbVie's gave illegal kickbacks to doctors
Well, there's not supposed to be
Posted on 9/19/18 at 6:01 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
The problem I have is that many doctors - especially those who post here - act like their knowledge is infallible and that the laity are inept. That doctors are above the common person in ethics, capability, and reason.
There was a thread not too long ago where Scruffy in particular scoffed at the notion that any doctor could be getting kickbacks from pharmaceutical companies. To suggest otherwise is not understand how the business works. Yet here is a story showing that doctors can and do accept kickbacks without regard to the law.
There was a thread not too long ago where Scruffy in particular scoffed at the notion that any doctor could be getting kickbacks from pharmaceutical companies. To suggest otherwise is not understand how the business works. Yet here is a story showing that doctors can and do accept kickbacks without regard to the law.
Posted on 9/19/18 at 6:04 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
One of my friends is an attorney that got involved with a similar investigation
Evidently this shite is a lot more widespread than people would like to believe
Evidently this shite is a lot more widespread than people would like to believe
Posted on 9/19/18 at 6:04 pm to Powerman
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Evidently this shite is a lot more widespread than people would like to believe
I'm not discounting that, just pointing out that it's not legal.
Posted on 9/19/18 at 6:06 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
Noted
But there are a lot of other things that are legal and completely unethical that doctors engage in regularly
Mostly related to overvtreatment that is raping the economy of our country
But there are a lot of other things that are legal and completely unethical that doctors engage in regularly
Mostly related to overvtreatment that is raping the economy of our country
Posted on 9/19/18 at 6:59 pm to Powerman
I just always assume that doctors get kickbacks for presrcibing medicine, because rarely, if ever, do you go to the doc and not walk out with some type of meds.
With that, I rarely fill prescriptions when prescribed, unless I really feel like I need it.
Fortunately, I don't get sick too often, so I don't use meds.
Most meds are needed, but the medical folks don't make money unless meds are taken.
With that, I rarely fill prescriptions when prescribed, unless I really feel like I need it.
Fortunately, I don't get sick too often, so I don't use meds.
Most meds are needed, but the medical folks don't make money unless meds are taken.
Posted on 9/19/18 at 8:08 pm to Powerman
If you read the article, the “kickbacks” are not payments to the doctor, but patient “advocates” that worked for the company and helped with prior authorizations. Not saying it was right, but let’s not act like they were delivering briefcases of money to the doctors.
Posted on 9/19/18 at 8:10 pm to Ric Flair
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If you read the article
Why would I do that when the posted title aligns with my preconceived biases?
Posted on 9/19/18 at 8:18 pm to Big Scrub TX
A coworker of my wife worked with Dr Death.
Posted on 9/19/18 at 8:41 pm to tke_swamprat
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A coworker of my wife worked with Dr Death.
Was that the spine surgeon in Dallas who would get coked up and frick shite up? Read an article about him. What’s the name of the podcast?
Posted on 9/19/18 at 8:44 pm to Big Scrub TX
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I'm listening to a podcast now called Dr. Death about a neurosurgeon in Dallas who was essentially murdering patients. Baylor Medical essentially covered it up. Quite terrifying.
Fake news. Baylor would never engage in a cover-up.
Posted on 9/19/18 at 8:48 pm to StringedInstruments
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Scruffy claims there’s no such thing as kickbacks.
I had to look to make sure this wasn't scruffy (aka Jimmy) posting.
Posted on 9/19/18 at 9:23 pm to Ric Flair
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but patient “advocates” that worked for the company and helped with prior authorizations.
But they weren't really patient advocates
They're frauds pretending to be patient advocates
Posted on 9/20/18 at 4:14 am to Powerman
Before I started working in surgery they had a neurosurgeon who would break scrub in the middle of cases and be out the room for 10-20 minutes at a time. Everyone was pretty sure he would go hit some swings of liquor or was doing some other drugs. He ended up going to the Lafayette area and I think he’s no longer practicing.
Posted on 9/20/18 at 8:56 am to East Coast Band
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I just always assume that doctors get kickbacks for presrcibing medicine, because rarely, if ever, do you go to the doc and not walk out with some type of meds.
Are the doctors prescribing meds because they're getting kickbacks? Or are they prescribing meds because they assume that it's what the patient (consumer) wants?
This is especially true for conditions that can be usually helped primarily with diet/exercise (high blood pressure, etc...). I think they either assume, or it's been there experience, that they can't just tell a patient to fix it on their own and get positive results.
My gut feel is that if kickbacks where extremely pervasive in the medical industry, we would see a TON more weight loss drugs being prescribed.
Posted on 9/20/18 at 10:35 am to tke_swamprat
quote:Please tell us more. This shite is chilling.
A coworker of my wife worked with Dr Death.
Posted on 9/20/18 at 10:37 am to Bestbank Tiger
quote:It wasn't exactly a cover up...but let's just say that their way of addressing it was "anemic". Basically, they stopped short of reporting him to the federal registry that would have been the 1st thing to pop up on the screen of any prospective new employer. Since he wasn't on that list, he was able to spread his mayhem around to other hospitals/clinics.
Baylor would never engage in a cover-up.
They also mentioned that when the TX medical board got around to addressing it, they fined Baylor $100K...and then 1 year later, they quietly dismissed the fine...WTF
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