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What would be the benefits to an hourly diet model?

Posted on 11/11/21 at 9:40 pm
Posted by Kujo
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Posted on 11/11/21 at 9:40 pm
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Your specific calorie needs will vary, which is why the calculator is helpful. As an example, an average height, 32-year-old man who weighs 160 pounds and is moderately active will require about 2,600 calories to maintain his weight. However, the calorie needs for men will change if he wants to gain or lose weight.


Just using this example. 2,600 calories per day, assuming you sleep for 8 hours, you would need to consume 162 calories every hour for 16 hours to maintain your weight.

Handful of peanuts, then trail mix or whatever, then a couple hard boiled eggs, then a couple serving of string cheese, then a cup of rice, then a couple tablespoons of peanut butter, then buttered toast, etc,etc..

I know it may seem tedious to meal plan, but it’s quick short meal breaks.

Would it help or harm your metabolism, would you body go into starvation mode if it’s always running near empty?
Posted by cssamerican
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Posted on 11/12/21 at 6:01 am to
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Would it help or harm your metabolism, would you body go into starvation mode if it’s always running near empty?

It would be a horrible diet. Insulin would always be elevated, it’s to much work, and you would likely never be full/satisfied.
Posted by lsu777
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Posted on 11/12/21 at 8:51 am to
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Insulin would always be elevated


who gives a shite?

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What would be the benefits to an hourly diet model
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Would it help or harm your metabolism, would you body go into starvation mode if it’s always running near empty?


starvation mode is so so so overblown. it would not harm your metabolism, neither positive nor negative.

95% of what happens with the body bf and muscle wise when it comes to diet, is controlled by 2 things...calories and protien. everything else makes up the other 5%. Keto, IF, carnivore, high carb, low carb, carb back loading etc.....all account for very very very little when it comes to overall body comp.

resistance training i.e. actual progressive overload training, not just doing random machines, is the next biggest factor. certain types of cardio such as true sprints, hill sprints, sled pushes etc have been shown to help some too.

sleep is the next biggest component

eating at the same time everyday(whether its 1,2, or even 8 or in your case 16 meals) has shown to help reduce bf% over a diet that one eats randomly once cals, sleep and protein are equated.


having carbs only during the peri-workout window has shown very small benifits

other than that.....its all cals and protein.

all this shite was covered in the leangains method book, layne nortons books etc.
Posted by cssamerican
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Posted on 11/12/21 at 12:39 pm to
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who gives a shite?

Your pancreas I would question if your damaging your body long term by constantly forcing you pancreas to produce insulin.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
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Posted on 11/12/21 at 12:45 pm to
Sounds dumb and unnecessarily tough
Posted by zatetic
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Posted on 11/12/21 at 12:48 pm to
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starvation mode is so so so overblown.


Well your metabolism increases with fasting, but lowers with lowering calories.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
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Posted on 11/12/21 at 12:50 pm to
It doesn’t matter in the long run when calories are equated. Do what you like
Posted by lsu777
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Posted on 11/12/21 at 12:59 pm to
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Your pancreas I would question if your damaging your body long term by constantly forcing you pancreas to produce insulin.


you arent forcing it to produce anymore over time. just different timing on this
Posted by lsu777
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Posted on 11/12/21 at 1:00 pm to
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Well your metabolism increases with fasting, but lowers with lowering calories.



not really. when cals and protein are equated....body comp changes are pretty much exactly the same.
Posted by TigerInCbus
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Posted on 11/12/21 at 1:35 pm to
Fasting, as most people incorporate it, is just a way to reduce calories by only eating for X hrs a day.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
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Posted on 11/13/21 at 10:11 am to
That’s not the purpose of IF though. IF is supposed to be same amount of calories
Posted by BigPapiDoesItAgain
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Posted on 11/13/21 at 11:07 am to
This stuff really, really varies from person to person. I start with a calorie count based on age, sex, body mass and activity level and then find what works. Within that number, my goal is to emphasize healthier proteins and fats and de-emphasize carbs. I'm not a keto eater, and don't try to cut anything out. I try to eat relatively small amounts of things that have a lower caloric density when I get hungry - fasting doesn't work for me.

Long and short of this post is that it definitely helps me to eat something fairly frequently, but not hourly - I'm not hungry that frequently. For point of reference, I'm 53 y.o. M, 5'10" 165 or a shade under most days. Two mile walk w/ dog every morning + tennis twice weekly and an hour on the stationary bike on the days I don't play tennis.
Posted by whiskey over ice
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Posted on 11/13/21 at 4:20 pm to
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That’s not the purpose of IF though. IF is supposed to be same amount of calories


Then you won’t lose weight
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
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Posted on 11/14/21 at 1:27 pm to
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Then you won’t lose weight


You're missing the point. No significant difference in constant feeding, normal feeding, and fasting feeding if equating calories whether it be in surplus or deficit.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
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Posted on 11/14/21 at 1:29 pm to
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Long and short of this post is that it definitely helps me to eat something fairly frequently, but not hourly - I'm not hungry that frequently. For point of reference, I'm 53 y.o. M, 5'10" 165 or a shade under most days. Two mile walk w/ dog every morning + tennis twice weekly and an hour on the stationary bike on the days I don't play tennis.



That is exactly what the purpose of these methods are trying to accomplish, options. I adhere to diets more on fasting, doesn't mean fasting is king of losing weight. Just what I adhere to most.
Posted by zatetic
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Posted on 11/14/21 at 4:07 pm to
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doesn't mean fasting is king of losing weight


I'm taking when you say fasting you mean just IF, because fasting is king. That includes the autophagy and the huge hormone boost you get with fasting. I believe people overlook the hormone benefit from fasting even as peoples hormones have progressively, collectively gotten
worse.

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Fasting vs. Eating Less: What's the Difference? (Science of Fasting)

I also get that often times a calorie is a calorie, but it isn't always. Like studies show the same calories, same macro breakdown, but different types of fat will get you different weights. That could because some things that have been made foods, weren't made to be food for humans, like polyunsaturated fats. I do get that a calorie is a calorie is a very good starting point and normally covers like 90% of the weight issue.

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Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
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Posted on 11/14/21 at 4:16 pm to
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90% of the weight issue


Try like 100% other than some minor water retention. Still gotta eat more to get bigger.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
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Posted on 11/14/21 at 4:23 pm to
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I'm taking when you say fasting you mean just IF, because fasting is king.


ALL fasting. When it's equating in calories.
Posted by zatetic
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Posted on 11/14/21 at 5:18 pm to
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ALL fasting. When it's equating in calories.



IDK what you mean, fasting doesn't have any calories. It replaces calories with huge bumps in beneficial hormones like growth hormone causing muscle sparing. Further switching into ketosis and autophagy causing the body to repair itself and have accelerated fat loss compared to using glucose because muscle can't break down into ketones while it is easier for muscle to break down into glucose than fat with a calorie reduction diet.

This isn't to say just eating less doesn't work. I just believe there a huge ancillary benefits to fasting compared to eating less. Also polyunsaturated fats completely screw up calories and should not be eaten for a multitude of health reasons. There's even science coming out saying IF increases testosterone.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
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Posted on 11/14/21 at 6:03 pm to
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DK what you mean, fasting doesn't have any calories.


This thread is about diets not fasting. Fasting as a diet tool is the same as any other method when calories are equated.
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