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re: Vitamins/Supplements to Offset mRNA Spike Protein Potential Damage

Posted on 8/19/21 at 11:35 am to
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 8/19/21 at 11:35 am to
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Dr.Cole also trained at Mayo Clinic,gives him some credibility,IMO.


and then he loses all credibility when he sites VAERS data

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Dr.Robert Malone,inventor of mRNA technology


the self proclaimed "inventor of mRNA technology"

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I will likely take the Novavax version when available.I’ve taken just about every vaccination there is made using that technology.



odd considering the Novavax is the spike protein injected directly into your body

you know...the same spike protein that Dr. Cole claims is causing permanent damage and killing people
This post was edited on 8/19/21 at 11:36 am
Posted by DixonCider
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Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 8/19/21 at 12:54 pm to
I'm honestly just looking for clarity in all this.

Is the spike protein causing damage/inflammation or is that currently debated as well?

Had the virus, had the vaccine after, so I've got it regardless. I'm just curious at this point. I was hesitant towards the vaccine, and I'm still unsure about how far and wide it's being pushed even after no notable side effects, but I have a deep distrust of our pharmaceutical industry
Posted by MonroeTigerstripes
Member since Jul 2016
572 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 8:00 am to
Liposomal glutathione is a supplement you can try. It is an antioxidant and detoxifier. I know someone who got the vax and is concerned with the amount of graphene oxide it contains so he started taking LG after doing some research
Posted by jordan21210
Member since Apr 2009
14206 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 8:12 am to
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I know someone who got the vax and is concerned with the amount of graphene oxide it contains

Bad info…again.
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Online reports that COVID-19 vaccines contain graphene oxide are unfounded. The allegations are based on an analysis by a professor in Spain which has been rejected by experts. He obtained what he himself described as non-conclusive results after studying one vial. He said the vial was purported to contain a dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine but said it had come to him by a messenger service and acknowledged that the vial’s origin was unknown.


LINK
Posted by MonroeTigerstripes
Member since Jul 2016
572 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 8:32 am to
Not saying I agree or disagree. Just giving the OP a supplement option
Posted by tenderfoot tigah
Red Stick
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 8/20/21 at 9:14 pm to
Why are a bunch of people on a health and fitness message board taking a vaccine for a virus with a 99.98% survival rate for healthy fit people.
Posted by cssamerican
Member since Mar 2011
8211 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 10:00 pm to
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Why are a bunch of people on a health and fitness message board taking a vaccine for a virus with a 99.98% survival rate for healthy fit people.

Not everyone is confident in their health, and not everyone is young.

As far as I can tell this seems to be cocktail that a few people believe improve your odds vs COVID. So, I would assume if you are worried about the spike protein I would think this would be about as good as you could hope for

Vitamin D (Anti-Inflammatory & Immune Support)
Vitamin C (Immune Support)
Zinc (Immune Support)
EPA/DHA Omega-3s (Anti-Inflammatory)
Quercetin (Anti-Inflammatory)
Melatonin (Anti-Inflammatory)
Bromelain (Anti-Inflammatory & Possible Spike Protein Disrupter)
This post was edited on 8/20/21 at 10:10 pm
Posted by jordan21210
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 8/21/21 at 7:40 am to
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Why are a bunch of people on a health and fitness message board taking a vaccine for a virus with a 99.98% survival rate for healthy fit people.

Because I’m educated and mature enough to realize it’s not just about me. I see my grandparents often, my future MIL is battling cancer, and I work with people who might be considered high risk.

I also more concerned with the long term effects of a virus that most agree was created in a Chinese lab vs the long term effects of one of the most studied and statistically safe vaccines to ever come to market. The risk of me getting sick is very small, but I have a free, nearly risk free way to lessen those chances substantially while at the same time lowering the risk for others around me.
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
4934 posts
Posted on 8/21/21 at 8:29 am to
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Because I’m educated and mature enough to realize it’s not just about me. I see my grandparents often, my future MIL is battling cancer, and I work with people who might be considered high risk.



This Is what I don’t get. Why the hell do people keep preaching this and acting like it’s our fault someone else gets it? If you’re scared, go get the vaccine and deal with it.
But vaxxed or unvaxxed, you’re gonna spread the virus just as easily.

You’re argument is essentially saying for me to take my vitamins bc if I don’t then yours won’t work.
Posted by jordan21210
Member since Apr 2009
14206 posts
Posted on 8/21/21 at 9:01 am to
Vaccines =\= vitamins, but keep preaching ignorance.

Guess no one remembers 6 years ago when we had a measles outbreak?. Nearly everyone I knew, many of whom are antivax now, lamented people who wouldn’t listen to medical professionals and got vaccine information from FB. Funny how the script has been completely flipped.
This post was edited on 8/21/21 at 9:05 am
Posted by Salmon
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 8/21/21 at 11:14 am to
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Why are a bunch of people on a health and fitness message board taking a vaccine for a virus with a 99.98% survival rate for healthy fit people.


The vast majority of people getting vaccinated are getting vaccinated because they want to reduce symptoms and/or reduce chances of spread, not because they are afraid of dying.

I have no idea where this narrative formed where you should only get vaccinated if you are scared of dying. It’s absurd.
Posted by Salmon
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 8/21/21 at 11:17 am to
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But vaxxed or unvaxxed, you’re gonna spread the virus just as easily.


This is false.

People want to focus on the breakthrough infections and act like those are common, when in fact, breakthrough infections are still relatively uncommon for the vaccinated.

Is Delta lowering the efficacy of the vaccines? Yes. But they are still quite effective in preventing infection. And by infection, I mean the ability for the virus to reproduce and shed.
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
4934 posts
Posted on 8/21/21 at 2:50 pm to
Preventing death, maybe. Preventing spread, absolutely not. There’s multiple studies showing being vaxed does nothing for limiting the spread. In fact, there’s a couple studies that are proving being vaccinated spreads the virus even worse and is causing multiple variants.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86177 posts
Posted on 8/21/21 at 3:08 pm to
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There’s multiple studies showing being vaxed does nothing for limiting the spread.


No there isn’t. There are multiple studies showing viral load is the same in breakthrough cases. Breakthrough cases, while increasing, are still uncommon.

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In fact, there’s a couple studies that are proving being vaccinated spreads the virus even worse and is causing multiple variants.


No there isn’t. Vaccination does not cause mutations. Viruses do not react to environmental conditions. Mutations are completely random. Environmental conditions then determine what mutations succeed and which one fail.
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
4934 posts
Posted on 8/21/21 at 4:12 pm to
Lol this is going to go nowhere. Whatever you say. I guess the main side effect of this vaccine is gaslighting and believing to your governing overlords.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 8/21/21 at 4:14 pm to
Good talk.
Posted by jordan21210
Member since Apr 2009
14206 posts
Posted on 8/21/21 at 6:51 pm to
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Lol this is going to go nowhere.

It could go somewhere but your mind is incorrectly made up due to bad information. Ignorance is bliss I suppose. Perhaps you’d find it more accommodating mingling with the troglodytes on the poliboard.
This post was edited on 8/21/21 at 6:52 pm
Posted by tenderfoot tigah
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Member since Sep 2004
11557 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 4:48 pm to
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Because I’m educated and mature enough to realize it’s not just about me. I see my grandparents often, my future MIL is battling cancer, and I work with people who might be considered high risk.


If the vaccine works, they can take the jab and have nothing to worry about.

0 logic from the Masked Covidians.
Posted by tenderfoot tigah
Red Stick
Member since Sep 2004
11557 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 4:50 pm to
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There’s multiple studies showing being vaxed does nothing for limiting the spread.


Correct. Countries with 100% vaccination rates or near 100% vaccination rates are still having breakouts.

Meanwhile the US media is refusing to report the vaccine injuries which is causing young healthy people to put their immune systems at risk with a needless jab.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38031 posts
Posted on 8/23/21 at 7:51 am to
Dude some of these people kill me, uneducated as frick.

I am all for people making the decision that is best for them and have and will fight for that right. But don't whine when you get sick as frick either.


One thing I have noticed, is usually those that use one offs or exceptions as some kind of evidence are lacking critical thinking skills. You see it alot in the BMI threads on the OT. What's funny is I see the same people claiming BMI doesn't pertain to them critizing people getting the vaccine.

Fat fricks don't even know they are at risk.
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