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re: The Greyskull Methods- A Primer

Posted on 7/19/22 at 10:16 pm to
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 7/19/22 at 10:16 pm to
Yep, can up it to even 10 or 12 if you want
Posted by Yeti_Chaser
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Posted on 7/20/22 at 12:55 pm to
Chicken owes you for bringing in all these new members
Posted by Rommytop
Member since Jul 2022
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Posted on 7/25/22 at 4:32 pm to
We all owe lsu for this incredible thread!

I was reading deep in the thread about more body weight and calisthenics stuff and don’t think I have access to the gymnastics folder. The link from back then seems broken. Is this something I could get access to?
Posted by sleepygymcat
CDMX
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 7/27/22 at 6:14 pm to
Anecdotic stuff to keep motivation up. Was finishing shaking sheets with the missus the other day and got a puped up all upper body, incredible stuff 10/10 would reccomend, first time ever at my 38 years young lol, missus noticed big pup too and was totally flattered.

Never tought being strong would feel as good, never understood how weak I was, still a long way to go but I feel no weak spots thanks to following GS and just going strong at compounds watching form and doing LP.

Thanks a lot lsu777, you rock.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 7/27/22 at 7:47 pm to
Good stuff man
Posted by lofty
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 8/1/22 at 4:34 pm to
I have been reading through this thread over a few days and just started yesterday, I like the methods outlined.
My primary question is what few conditioning drills do you think would be most beneficial for an 8th grade football player(my boy RB/LB) who is doing it with me.

Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
34840 posts
Posted on 8/1/22 at 7:17 pm to
quote:

I have been reading through this thread over a few days and just started yesterday, I like the methods outlined.
My primary question is what few conditioning drills do you think would be most beneficial for an 8th grade football player(my boy RB/LB) who is doing it with me.




This program is great for that age as is the power athlete bedrock program.

For conditioning, I suggest 10-20 yard sprints with about 45-60 seconds between sprints. This will work speed but also this simulates very real game like conditioning for a rb/LB.


Hill sprints would be best. 8-10, adding 1 or 2 every week until season starts.


After that world on 10 or 20 yard sprints 2x weekly with about 2-3 min rest between each. Trying to beat the stop watch everytime.

If you want to do a program he can put on his iPad and just do, power athelte has the bedrock program(their lp program) and their speed program add on. It's hosted on the trainheroic app. I know lots of kids like apps.
Posted by triplesticks
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 8/3/22 at 1:04 pm to
Hey man,

Could you walk me through the vc1 progression? I think I read somewhere to start with 3sets of 10?
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
34840 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 2:18 pm to
LINK

Should give you an idea on how to progress
Posted by TheWeatherMan
Member since Oct 2018
122 posts
Posted on 8/4/22 at 8:47 pm to
Hey 777

Ive run through 5-6 cycles of PPSA and I’m feeling pretty beat up??. Started the last cycle in a calorie deficit and I don’t think I’m going be able to complete ‘many more under fed. I’d like to transition over to greyskull and run it out over the next year or so. What would you recommend for someone in my position?

My training maxes for ppsa-
Squat 385
Dead 405
Bench 330
Don’t really have one for press, but did hit 135 for 14 the other day when messing around .
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
34840 posts
Posted on 8/4/22 at 10:23 pm to
I would suggest 531 over greyskull in your case. Do you have the forever book? How many days a week you looking to lift and how many conditioning?
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 8/4/22 at 11:53 pm to
quote:

My training maxes for ppsa- Squat 385 Dead 405 Bench 330 Don’t really have one for press, but did hit 135 for 14 the other day when messing around .


Damn son.
Posted by TheWeatherMan
Member since Oct 2018
122 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 5:48 am to
I generally like four, but have no problem with three days per week.I have forever. As for conditioning, I’ve started the burpee challenge this week. I figured I would add two days in addition to that, and walking,

Also-

I did a benchmarking session for squat and bench this morning.

B - 275x6
S - 275x10

So off a bit from what I’ve been basing my percentages, but not too far
This post was edited on 8/5/22 at 8:32 am
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
34840 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 8:25 am to
quote:

I generally like four, but have no problem with three days per week.I have forever. As for conditioning, I’ve started the burpee challenge this week. I figured I would add two days in addition to that, and walking,
i would look at krypteia if you can do it with the supersets etc

or if you want to email me i may be able to help you with something else.
Posted by TheWeatherMan
Member since Oct 2018
122 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 8:54 am to
krypteia Looks fun. I’m only vaguely familiar with5/3/1. Does he explain 5pros in forever?

Nevermind, looks like it’s 5/3/1% but with 5 reps at each %. A lower trading max is used to ensure hitting the 5reps.
This post was edited on 8/5/22 at 9:06 am
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
34840 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 9:42 am to
quote:

krypteia Looks fun. I’m only vaguely familiar with5/3/1. Does he explain 5pros in forever?

Nevermind, looks like it’s 5/3/1% but with 5 reps at each %. A lower trading max is used to ensure hitting the 5reps.




yea thats what i would do or defrancos rebuilt 2.0
Posted by Frazdogg
Member since May 2022
33 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 5:50 am to
Thanks for this thread. I have been reading it for a little while.

Out of pure curiosity, I got the book and read that too. Then, I went to various message boards to see what kinds of results people got. Two things stood out from online message boards. 1) Almost no one using the program or commenting about the program has read the book. I base this on what they are saying about it. I could totally be wrong, but I don’t think I am. 2) There are a few shining stars who did read the book, who suggested others should too, who also presented very impressive numbers on their lifts. (They could be lying, but they seemed genuine).

The one main theme is everyone says it’s a beginner program. The book clearly discusses that it’s not. I used to think that way, but now after reading, I think it can work long term, and one may only have trouble as they enter elite levels of lifting., which isn’t going to happen for me. This is purely recreational for me.

I was running a PPSA training plan, but honestly I wasn’t enjoying it very much. Before that, I was running Tactical Barbell (TB). GSLP reminds me a lot of TB. There are a lot of similarities, but some stark differences in purpose. But, a 3-day a week program gives me more time to work on some cardio goals I have, and the strength portion of GSLP is pretty minimal in a great way, and just the right dose.

To be honest, I’ve always discounted GSLP due to most people saying it’s a beginner program and it’s a waste of time, only works for a couple months in the newbie stages, etc.

GSLP seems to get to the point, and you have a little time afterward for a good 10-15 min conditioning sessions, then do LISS on the off days.

One of the similarities GSLP has with TB is it’s flexibility of adaptions to various ways of programming. In many ways, it’s almost endless.

I wish I would have been more open-minded about this program many years ago. But, I’m on board now, and that’s all that matters.

Again, I appreciate the post creation as otherwise, I don’t think I would have considered this program at all.

One goal I have had is a 300 lb bench. I have not been able to achieve that yet. Hopefully, Greyskull is the answer.

Cheers
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
34840 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 7:17 am to
quote:

Thanks for this thread. I have been reading it for a little while.

Out of pure curiosity, I got the book and read that too. Then, I went to various message boards to see what kinds of results people got. Two things stood out from online message boards. 1) Almost no one using the program or commenting about the program has read the book. I base this on what they are saying about it. I could totally be wrong, but I don’t think I am. 2) There are a few shining stars who did read the book, who suggested others should too, who also presented very impressive numbers on their lifts. (They could be lying, but they seemed genuine).

The one main theme is everyone says it’s a beginner program. The book clearly discusses that it’s not. I used to think that way, but now after reading, I think it can work long term, and one may only have trouble as they enter elite levels of lifting., which isn’t going to happen for me. This is purely recreational for me.

I was running a PPSA training plan, but honestly I wasn’t enjoying it very much. Before that, I was running Tactical Barbell (TB). GSLP reminds me a lot of TB. There are a lot of similarities, but some stark differences in purpose. But, a 3-day a week program gives me more time to work on some cardio goals I have, and the strength portion of GSLP is pretty minimal in a great way, and just the right dose.

To be honest, I’ve always discounted GSLP due to most people saying it’s a beginner program and it’s a waste of time, only works for a couple months in the newbie stages, etc.

GSLP seems to get to the point, and you have a little time afterward for a good 10-15 min conditioning sessions, then do LISS on the off days.

One of the similarities GSLP has with TB is it’s flexibility of adaptions to various ways of programming. In many ways, it’s almost endless.

I wish I would have been more open-minded about this program many years ago. But, I’m on board now, and that’s all that matters.

Again, I appreciate the post creation as otherwise, I don’t think I would have considered this program at all.

One goal I have had is a 300 lb bench. I have not been able to achieve that yet. Hopefully, Greyskull is the answer.

Cheers



most people have no clue on real programming and dont understand the gslp. They have no clue how to progress because they havent read the book. To be fair, JP hasnt always done the best job of presenting the info either, he is practically non exsistent 50% of the time and he owes lots of people money.

if you have cardio goals, gslp is a great way to go. I love PPSA but its more of a powerbuilding percentage based program, in some ways similar to 531 but with more variation on the rep scheme.

as far as gslp, the 3 day fits nice for most people. Most people should progress like a have laid out in different parts of the thread. if you are willing to swap lifts for variations and play with rep scheme/overall volume as laid out....you can run the program endlessly. Kinda of like doggcrapp training.
Posted by Frazdogg
Member since May 2022
33 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 8:51 am to
Yep. I really had no idea how flexible it is. I read the part about what to do if you get stuck. And he suggests doing an alternative for a while. Like if I’m stuck on bench at 245, and I’ve dropped 10% a couple of times, work back up, and just can’t break it, switch to CGBP or, Incline Bench for a while. Then, after a good amount of time on that variation, come back to bench press. This is exactly how that should be handled. Most people get stuck, and think it doesn’t work anymore. But, 6 months of CGBP will probably unstick your bench press…just my opinion.

I also picked up a set of his conditioning books. Super cool. I’m really stoked about this. I usually love PPSA but for whatever reason, I wasn’t into this round.

This post was edited on 8/9/22 at 8:54 am
Posted by lofty
Member since Dec 2019
468 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 9:07 am to
Lsu77 this is what I am on week 2, just wanted to run it by you see if I am checking the right boxes. Goals are to bring up glutes and arms alongside improving overall body comp. I have found some crazy places at work to do burpees and chins for homework..

1.ohp 2x5,1x5+, Squat 2x5,1x5+ ,
v lat pull-down, farmer walk
2.bench 2x5,1x5+, Dl 1x5+,
close grip bench, dB row, banded walk
3. Ohp 2x5, DL 1x5+
vlat pulldown, farmer walk
4.bench 2x5,1x5+, Squat 2x5,1x5+,
Yates row,bar curl, hip thrust
5. Ohp 2x5,1x5+, Dl 1x5+
vlat pulldown, farmer walk
6. Bench 2x5,1x5+,Squat 2x5,1x5+, close grip bench,dB row, banded walk

I am going very light on Squat and DL because of recurrent hemorrhoids that seem to come back anytime I lift those heavier.
And do you do plug-ins after your 2 main lifts, this is what I have been doing.
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