Frazdogg

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How does it work with your body only absorbing x grams of protein at a time though? If you eat all 200 grams of protein in one meal, doesn't your body shite out 150 of it because it just can't absorb it all at once?

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Research generally suggests no more than about 2.2g/kg of body weight in a day. Or, about .4g/kg of body weight over 4 meals per day seems ideal.

That’s why I said, it probably doesn’t work well for OMAD.

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This was funny, but it doesn’t make up for his character. Unfortunately, he’s a complete arse. And, unfortunately, he’s got more wrong than right.

Look up his thought on trap bar. Then, you’ll see what I mean. He should just shut it down.

Pros: 1. you get very familiar with heavy weight. 2. According to some people, this gets you competition ready. 3. Another pro is you really focus hard on weaknesses. That is one of the primary objectives. Louie used to say, “you’re only as strong as your weakest link.” 4. Concurrent training is lots of fun. There is a lot of variety and everyday is different. So, if you get bored easily, this is a good way to train.

Comment: Westside and Conjugate are different. Westside is a gym owned by Louie Simmons. If you’re not training at Westside under Louie it’s not Westside.

I like the term ‘Concurrent Training’ over conjugate or Westside style.

Cons: 1. It is my belief that sub max training is far superior. We now have tons of science to back that up. 2. I’m not convinced that never squatting traditional squat is superior, as an example. 3. The Bulgarians and Russians have proved that practice makes perfect. Louie was a special kind of genius and was a masterful coach. Without him, his unconventional style is Impossible to duplicate. 4. There are people who say that concurrent training is only for suits and gear. Yes. I have read a lot of why Louie designed some of the training the way he did, and it was focused on the suits. If you think about squatting in a suit, at the bottom, you have a lot of support and help from the suit, so getting out of the hole was the easy part. The hard part was mid way up. Thus, bands and chains were born. The heaviest part of the lift with bands and chains is mid way to full stance in a squat. That’s where Louie focused to strengthen his athletes.

Andy Baker has a program he writes weekly and emails out. I think it’s around $27 per month. This will get you started.

Westside also has a weekly subscription that I think is around $10 per month.

Elite FTS has a 18-Week program Dave Tate designed for free on the Elite FTS site. Sorry, I don’t have the link for it. But, it’s out there. It’s very simple but will give you a solid starting point.

You can follow these for a while until you get the hang of it. But, true concurrent training is understanding your weaknesses and exploiting them. So, eventually, you’d have to go on your own once you had a good understanding of that.

For me, I feel like I would need good quality coaching, not a template. And I don’t think I would be able to wing it. I have had great success on sub max training, so I stick with that.

As an alternative, both Brian Alsruhe and Ben Pollack flirt with concurrent training. For instance, I’m doing a program now from Brian that is called Next Level Linear Progression. I don’t know why it’s called that because it’s not a linear program. But, it has 4 block that are 4 weeks. Each week, you work up to an intensity, yesterday, I worked up to an 8RM on squat, as an example. Each block increases in intensity, until the last block, you’re working up to 1RM’s. It’s similar to concurrent training, but has a lot of activity and short rest periods, so it’s not really concurrent. But, it’s challenging as hell. One downside is you have to watch his video and put together your own program based on his theory of how it works. So, it takes some time to figure it out. If anyone is interested, I created a spreadsheet and I can send it to you.

Came here to say, I have tried Cardiotone for one month. No results, and it’s hard to breathe. It really impacts my upper respiratory system. I’m coughing and wheezing all day everyday. This is not normal for me. I decided to stop since there are only negative results.

My BP hasn’t budged. Might have to do with the fact that I also take Lisinopril as prescribed by my doctor, and maybe there’s interference between the two. Unfortunately, if I have to choose, I’m going to follow what my doctor prescribes. High blood pressure is no joke.

I know there a lot of people getting great results. But, I wanted to report that it doesn’t work for me.

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Lsu777, thank you for the suggestion. I’m going to buy it now and give it a try. Much appreciated.

How long does it take to see some progress? I got my BP pretty near normal with diet and medication. However, I’d like to get it into healthy ranges. I don’t care if I have to continue with medication. But, would be a nice bonus if I could reduce my dosage.

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greyskull doesnt schedule them typically as life has a way of forcing you to take one as you mentioned. I usually tell people if you have a life event that makes you take a deload, just enjoy and perform a reset when you get back, same if you feel beat up.

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Thanks a lot. That makes total sense.

lsu777, are you a coach or something?

Yep. I really had no idea how flexible it is. I read the part about what to do if you get stuck. And he suggests doing an alternative for a while. Like if I’m stuck on bench at 245, and I’ve dropped 10% a couple of times, work back up, and just can’t break it, switch to CGBP or, Incline Bench for a while. Then, after a good amount of time on that variation, come back to bench press. This is exactly how that should be handled. Most people get stuck, and think it doesn’t work anymore. But, 6 months of CGBP will probably unstick your bench press…just my opinion.

I also picked up a set of his conditioning books. Super cool. I’m really stoked about this. I usually love PPSA but for whatever reason, I wasn’t into this round.

For the first time in my whole life doing programs, I started using the recommended rest times. On Turnt Up yesterday, W1D3, I was 2 hours in and couldn’t finish due to the heat. It’s too much rest, man. And, I rarely am unable to finish. It’s only happened a couple of times.

Do you guys follow the rest times? I never have my whole life. I was reading something one time early in my fitness life, and I read someone I respect who said something like, “rest times are stupid. Rest until you’re ready.” That always stuck with me. Some days I need more than others. But, I’m probably going to go back to ignoring the rest time recommendations. I anti got that kind of time.

Just curious if you guys follow it or not. Seems excessive to me.