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re: The Greyskull Methods- A Primer

Posted on 1/20/19 at 8:43 am to
Posted by Tornado Alley
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 8:43 am to
NM I found the book.

Who Dat!
This post was edited on 1/20/19 at 10:47 am
Posted by Tornado Alley
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Posted on 1/21/19 at 1:02 pm to
777, you ever heard of anyone training for a 10K and also doing Greyskull? I'm wondering if all the running and "crosstraining" would interfere with linear progression on squats and deadlifts and general hypertrophy.

Thanks.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 1/21/19 at 1:27 pm to
quote:

777, you ever heard of anyone training for a 10K and also doing Greyskull? I'm wondering if all the running and "crosstraining" would interfere with linear progression on squats and deadlifts and general hypertrophy.


doign that much conditioining will always interfere but you train for your goals. See the challenges EBook for ideas on how to train for it.
Posted by Tornado Alley
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Posted on 1/21/19 at 1:45 pm to
Thanks.
Posted by Bailey25
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 1/21/19 at 9:45 pm to
Where or how do we find that 60 day pushup/chin up/ lunge challenge you had previously mentioned?

Thanks

Kevin
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
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Posted on 1/21/19 at 9:50 pm to
quote:

Where or how do we find that 60 day pushup/chin up/ lunge challenge you had previously mentioned?


LINK
Posted by Bailey25
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 1/21/19 at 10:38 pm to
Actually had already found it but thank you, gonna stick with normal frequency work for now however...
Posted by DarkSk0ll
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 4:33 am to
quote:

777, you ever heard of anyone training for a 10K and also doing Greyskull? I'm wondering if all the running and "crosstraining" would interfere with linear progression on squats and deadlifts and general hypertrophy. 

Thanks.


I am training 15-20hrs a week endurance rowing and 3x a week Greyskull. World class at rowing. I am 170 lbs normally, under 160lbs in competitions with single digit bf% in season. I row 2k 6:21 with C2 machine and 7:09 on the water. I squat 285lbsx5 and deadlift 350lbsx5, and I am mostly lifting just to be better at my sport (aesthetics are a nice side benefit ;)).

Of course all the endurance work interferes, but it's very much possible to do both, and have pretty decent strength and muscle mass (Top XFitters!?), you just have to layer in the work. My GSLP template is a few pages back.

Also note my bodyweight is so low because I am a weight class athlete. If I could eat more I would gain musclular weight, and the lifts would also go up in relation to bodyweight (Squat 1,65xBWx5reps and Dead 2xBWx5reps currently).

One tip: do your heaviest Squat Day on a day you are the most rested, squats are the most affected by endurance training.

If you have any more questions about concurrent strength/endurance training, just let me know.
This post was edited on 1/22/19 at 4:51 am
Posted by DarkSk0ll
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 5:42 am to
Just to add, I am not the only one, I personally know 3 other lightweights about my size who put similar numbers, and 6 Heavyweights who are lean 200-225 lbs Squatting and deadlifting over 400 and pulling 2K on the C2 sub 6:00
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 6:45 am to
My thoughts are:

Sunday: rest
Monday: greyskull weights and homework; run
Tuesday: greyskull homework and walk
Wednesday: greyskull weights and homework; run
Thursday: greyskull homework and walk
Friday: greyskull weights and homework; bike
Saturday: greyskull homework and long run

That way I’m never running or biking before squats.

It’s just the Hal Higdon beginner 10k plan. That’s all.
This post was edited on 1/22/19 at 6:46 am
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 8:03 am to
should be fine. Make sure you are getting 8 hours sleep every night and if possible get 10. ALso make sure you are eating your protein and carbs.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 8:25 am to
quote:

I row 2k 6:21


frick that
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 8:42 am to
quote:

DarkSk0ll


What number on the C2 corresponds to the friction across water? My buddy who was a USMA rower told me before but I’ve forgotten.
Posted by AlxTgr
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 8:55 am to
quote:

What number on the C2 corresponds to the friction across water? My buddy who was a USMA rower told me before but I’ve forgotten.
You have to go into settings and find the drag factor of that particular machine. Here's a good article. Start this video at about 1:40. So basically, around 120.

Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
28517 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 9:12 am to
Care to elaborate how many carbs and protein grams I should be getting daily?

29 years old
6’0
195
This post was edited on 1/22/19 at 9:12 am
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
37974 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 9:16 am to
what are your goals? What kind of job do you have? what is current BF%
This post was edited on 1/22/19 at 9:17 am
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
28517 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 9:30 am to
Goal 1: strong. I want to squat 315 and bench 225 for reps.
Goal 2: lean and muscular. I want to be bigger and add some more muscle mass in general, but do not want to be jacked by any stretch.
Goal 3: healthy. I want to have great cardiovascular health.

I have a sedentary desk job. I work 50+ hours per week.

Current body fat based on a google search is 26%.

I don’t drink much during the week but generally have a good bit on the weekends. My breakfast is generally Raisin Bran and a protein shake in the morning. Dinner varies but is generally fish, chicken, roasted veggies, and salad. Lunch varies but is generally a sandwich and fruit or leftovers. I generally eat pretty bad on Saturday when I’m partying.
This post was edited on 1/22/19 at 9:35 am
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
37974 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 9:41 am to
keep up the hard conditioing 3 days a week. You can adjust the Carb/Fat ratio as needed but you need to follow a couple of rules

1) All Carbs must come within 1 hour before or after the workout or all in the last meal of the day.

2) fat should be very limited within 2 hours post workout.

Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2013
10293 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 9:48 am to
Thanks that’s it
Posted by DarkSk0ll
Member since Dec 2018
59 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 8:27 am to
quote:

It’s just the Hal Higdon beginner 10k plan. That’s all.


I checked that plan and your split, that should work really well! Let us know how it goes.
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