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re: The Greyskull Methods- A Primer

Posted on 1/23/19 at 8:37 am to
Posted by DarkSk0ll
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 1/23/19 at 8:37 am to
quote:

What number on the C2 corresponds to the friction across water? My buddy who was a USMA rower told me before but I’ve forgotten.


Well according to Kleshnev it depends on the crew and gearing, but basically on static C2 The drag factor is 127 for 1x, 100 for 4- and 86 for 8+ for Heavyweights. Slightly higher If you use sliders/dynamic C2.

For lightweights it would be about 10-15% lower. I use around 105 on static C2.

Follow the links AlxTGR posted how to check the drag factor from the C2 options
Posted by Adam4848
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Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 1/23/19 at 8:49 am to
quote:

lsu777


Can you link me to that 1percentage calculator? I used it all the time for years but can't find it anymore.

Nvm I was able to find it on another website luckily someone mirrored it.
This post was edited on 1/23/19 at 8:51 am
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
28517 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 9:16 am to
Thanks for everyone’s help regarding 10k training with Greyskull. However, I don’t think I am gonna run in the Crescent City Classic seeing as how my wedding is just a few weeks after that and my fiancée doesn’t want to add to our overload our already overloaded schedule.

I am now on week 8 of 12 of base Greyskull with curls, pulldowns, chins, and conditioning added.

I will formulate my new greyskull for weeks 13 - 20 here in the next few weeks. I am interested in “stuff those sleeves,” but also want to bench 225 for reps sooner rather than later.

Anyways, thanks.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/23/19 at 12:25 pm to
quote:

I will formulate my new greyskull for weeks 13 - 20 here in the next few weeks. I am interested in “stuff those sleeves,” but also want to bench 225 for reps sooner rather than later.


stuff the sleeves will help you in that with the close grip benching.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
37974 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 12:26 pm to
quote:

Adam4848


here is the new leangains calc. Change tab to leangains

LINK
Posted by Adam4848
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Posted on 1/23/19 at 12:45 pm to
I've used that one as well. I liked the pie charts on the other one, like the graphics.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
28517 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 12:54 pm to
It’s only 8 weeks so why not.

I can’t do sets of 6-8 chins much less weighted close grip chins. What do I do about that in terms of programming? I will keep progressing on the push-up and chin-up homework throughout this 8 weeks.

Also, seeing as how I wanna tone up while getting bigger (generally), what do you recommend for a conditioning/cardio plan to go along with the stuff the sleeves workout? My current conditioning plan is simple:

- Fasted walking for 2 hours throughout the week (doesn’t matter when, just do it)
- Bike 5 miles at a 3:45 pace on Wednesdays (been getting well below that pace)
- Run 1 mile and try to beat my time each week on Saturdays

I’ve thought about adding another mile or two to the biking session and also another mile to the running session.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
37974 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 12:57 pm to
me too plus i like the original lean gains where i can manipulate the macros on the off days.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
37974 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 1:22 pm to
quote:

It’s only 8 weeks so why not.

I can’t do sets of 6-8 chins much less weighted close grip chins. What do I do about that in terms of programming? I will keep progressing on the push-up and chin-up homework throughout this 8 weeks.

Also, seeing as how I wanna tone up while getting bigger (generally), what do you recommend for a conditioning/cardio plan to go along with the stuff the sleeves workout? My current conditioning plan is simple:

- Fasted walking for 2 hours throughout the week (doesn’t matter when, just do it)
- Bike 5 miles at a 3:45 pace on Wednesdays (been getting well below that pace)
- Run 1 mile and try to beat my time each week on Saturdays

I’ve thought about adding another mile or two to the biking session and also another mile to the running session.



So didnt realize this. Honestly I would change the plan then. Stuff the sleeves is more for bulking.

run the LCI program Run the program as written except I want you add the following



Racked Chins.

can also do the main lift as gslp rep scheme of 2x5,1x5+ ccontinuing on the progression.



Do the circuit as he lays out.
Do the interval as he lays out

Continue your homework but switch the pushups out for the close grip pushups.

continue the fasted walking.
switch the bike and run days.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
28517 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 1:48 pm to
So, basically:

Monday: Greyskull bench, 2xAMRAP tacked Chins, and circuit and interval work as the book says

Tuesday: Greyskull press, Greyskull close grip bench, and circuit and interval work as the book says

Wednesday: bodyweight work as the book says, run 1 mile for time

Thursday: Greyskull deadlift, 2xAMRAP racked chins, and circuit and interval work as the book says

Friday: Greyskull bench, 2xAMRAP dips (I can’t do weighted dips), and circuit and interval training as the book says

Saturday: bike ride for time

Sunday: rest

Homework: close grip pushups and chin-ups
Conditioning as above

Are racked chins harder than regular chins?
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
37974 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 1:54 pm to
exactly right.

racked chins are easier than regular chins and easier to add weight to and progress.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
28517 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 2:10 pm to
I am not sure my gym has all of the things necessary to run the circuit and interval training as indicated in the book.

Also, what is a “g row?” The LCI routine looks like it takes much longer than the regular greyskull
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
37974 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 2:38 pm to
Grow is a row on the gluten ham raise. Replace with db Kroc row or pendlay row

Post any others you need a sub too.


And no lci takes about 45 min.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
28517 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 2:39 pm to
Also, I have zero experience with any Olympic lifts. May have to learn those.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
28517 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 2:57 pm to
LCI seems a little complex with all the changing lifts. Is it CrossFit with some greyskull concepts, essentially?

I’m going for simplicity and quickness, really.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
37974 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 5:22 pm to


Lci is the body composition program.

Look in the 60 days of conditioning thread and hit that program and diet with the mile run on Wednesday, bike on Saturday
This post was edited on 1/23/19 at 5:28 pm
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2013
10293 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 8:34 pm to
I switched to the 4x a week program...

W22D1: Sunday
FB Bench
Curls
Squats

D2: Monday
DB OHP
Chins
Deads

D3: Wednesday
FB Bench
Curls
Squats

D4: Friday
DB OHP
Chins
Deads

Homework Monday-Friday:
40x7 PU
4x7 Chins

Feeling much more satisfied with this setup. We will see how long it lasts. I’m not doing 2.5 / 5lbs increases every workout going to do weekly increases instead.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
37974 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 8:57 pm to
Looks good, nothing wrong with that setup at all. Kill it as best you can.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
28517 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 5:55 am to
Finished my workout without adding any to the AMRAP for press and squat, meaning I did three sets of five.

However, I felt a sharp, strong pain in my upper and mid back and neck in my first working set of press. I couldn’t shake the pain. It hurts real bad when I look up and move my head in any direction, especially to the left, and also while I’m tense while lifting. There were probably a couple more reps left in the squat, but my neck and upper back hurt too bad. Any ideas or suggestions as to the pain?


At least I pounded out the minimum.


Pushups and chin-ups hurt too. I am gonna skip them today. Hopefully a couple days rest will help.
This post was edited on 1/25/19 at 6:19 am
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
37974 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 8:59 am to
Rest, foam roller, hot water and stretch. If it doesn't work after a couple of days doing it, go see a chiropractor
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