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re: The Greyskull Methods- A Primer

Posted on 2/17/18 at 4:25 am to
Posted by numptythrubbers
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Posted on 2/17/18 at 4:25 am to
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Posted by tke_swamprat
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Posted on 2/17/18 at 7:30 am to
So basically I can use the base format and add ancillary workouts in them. Plus it’s ok to change up the type of deadlift, squat, press, or bench.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 2/17/18 at 7:49 am to
Yes, I would suggest not changing them until you stall on the original.

But the basics of the greyskull methods is to keep a log book, beat the log book, get stronger to build muscle, use bodyweight volume to build muscle and you short intense conditioning where needed.
Posted by tke_swamprat
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Posted on 2/17/18 at 7:52 am to
Bench is where I’ll struggle. Hurt my AC joint and it’s taken about 6 months to get back to about 90%. Just started with light bench press again.
Posted by numptythrubbers
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Posted on 2/17/18 at 8:41 am to
Given my 'goal image', what are some performance goals I should be shooting for?

Cheers man
This post was edited on 2/17/18 at 8:43 am
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 2/17/18 at 10:23 am to
Lascek is fricking strong and in damn good condition. Eventually your long term goals to look like that body image would be

Press-bw x 5-8 reps
Bench-1.5 x be for reps
Squat- 2.5 x be
Deadlift- 3x be
Chins- bw +45 x 10 reps

Now those should be long term goals for now
Concentrate on getting to the following maxes
Press- 0.8 x bw
Bench- be x 10 reps
Squat- villain challenge #2
Deadlift- 405 for reps
Chins- villain challenge #4
Pushups- villain challenge#3
Burpees- villain challenge#1

If you complete those, you are well on your damn way.
Posted by numptythrubbers
Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 2/19/18 at 6:24 am to
Would you say its better to focus on the lifting right now? As that seems like the 90% that will push me towards that goal really?

Ta
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 2/19/18 at 7:54 am to
No focus on the program like I said. It's a complete program. Bodyweight first, lifting second, conditioning 3rd. None should interfere or affect the other.
Posted by numptythrubbers
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Posted on 2/19/18 at 8:06 am to
Bodyweight 1st? How is bodyweight training the priority with those big lifting goals?

Sorry if I'm being ignorant but I just figured that focussing on the lifting would build the strength and muscle to achieve those heavy lifts?

But basically you recommend chibs, pushups and burpees as the actual foundation?
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 2/19/18 at 8:25 am to
read this

Now let em ask you a question, if you can't do 50 pushups in a set or 10 dead hang chins, do you really think any amount of lifting is going to help you reach your goals? Sure it will help but without a proper foundation you are just asking for the building to come crumbling down.

The best builders of size are frequent sub max sets in non advanced lifters. Easiest way to do this is progressively loaded bodyweight exercises.

All I am saying is there is no reason why the bodyweight stuff will effect your lifting. Look at each as a pillar and kick the shite out of both. They are of at minimum equal importance but the bodyweight stuff can be completed almost anywhere allowing you to not kiss sessions no matter what. Just try it for 12 weeks, at worst you will stronger in the lifts and much better at bodyweight stuff and you will have learned something.

All I'm asking for is 12 weeks, follow it without question then come back and post your results.
Posted by numptythrubbers
Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 2/19/18 at 8:45 am to
Ok cheers man.
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Posted by steve123
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 2/19/18 at 9:29 am to
Thanks, keep me posted man. Some days it's easy; some days it's tough to do it. But it's refreshing seeing other posters gettin after it and seeing progress.
Posted by numptythrubbers
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Posted on 2/19/18 at 9:39 am to
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Posted by numptythrubbers
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Posted on 2/19/18 at 9:40 am to
Will do. What's the best way to use the ladder method? Should I just go with a total rep goal and use ladders to get to that total number?

And is it really bad to just do the ladders every other day instead of every day, but doubling the volume when you do them?

Thanks for all your help. Look forward to seeing the results in 12 weeks time!
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/19/18 at 10:40 am to
Just start doing it, wehn you fail to make the reps on a ladder, back off one rung and that is your sweet spot. Start at that number of rings for week or two. Then add a rung to have the ladders, then to all of the ladders for the week. So on and so fourth. On the first page I list the page number in the book that the bodyweight stuff is on.


Honestly though, it's the total reps that matter. Just start with a total number of reps for a day, start low, and do ladders until you get to that number. Add 10% weekly.
Posted by Bailey25
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 2/19/18 at 8:34 pm to
I started doing total work method and just mixand match based on my daily schedule. For example, I’m a mailman so I can easily drop down and sub max sets 4-5 x a day. If I have a crazy day or just forget then I’ll do ladders at night before bed. As long as I hit my target for the day/week. Chins ( in my case negatives) I’ll just do in my garage at night so yeah definitely can mix and match to get work in
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 2/19/18 at 8:59 pm to
Yep all that matters is getting the reps in honestly. I mean frequency method is optimal for chins for size. Ladders for size with pushups. It's opposite to get your max numbers up though, chins work better with ladders, pushups with FM
Posted by numptythrubbers
Member since Feb 2018
246 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 3:36 pm to
So would it be right to say that actually the daily bodyweight work is the REAL base layer of the GSLP?

And that the lifting could be the plugin instead?
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 2/21/18 at 4:01 pm to
quote:

So would it be right to say that actually the daily bodyweight work is the REAL base layer of the GSLP?

And that the lifting could be the plugin instead?


Yes, here is a direct quote from Johnny Pain himself

quote:

It is imperative to consider your strength training in the gym as the “assistance” work to, and layered over top of your daily bodyweight work if you are to truly maximize your results from your training efforts.


its in this article
Posted by numptythrubbers
Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 2/22/18 at 4:17 am to
And if fat loss is the goal, is it better to do the burpees VC1 style daily or go for higher volume/less intensity using total work method?

Is it like this?

Conditioning/fitness performance - VC1 training.

Fat loss - daily burpees done as total work method.

Or have I got confused here too?

Sorry to keep pestering just wanna get it right.
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