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Testosterone at 447, should I optimize?
Posted on 11/11/21 at 8:29 pm
Posted on 11/11/21 at 8:29 pm
44 year old male and Got my testosterone levels tested and my level was 447. Testosterone clinic wants to optimize my levels and get it to around 600. Will this actually help me?
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Posted on 11/11/21 at 8:41 pm to lsufanintexas
Just go to 900
Posted on 11/11/21 at 9:00 pm to HurricaneDunc
wouldn’t that give me rage issues?
Posted on 11/11/21 at 9:08 pm to lsufanintexas
Normal range is something like 350-1000
Posted on 11/12/21 at 6:59 am to lsufanintexas
From 450 to 600 you may not see a huge difference. Get to 800-1000 and you’ll notice it.
Posted on 11/12/21 at 7:58 am to tke_swamprat
Consult your PCP
Posted on 11/12/21 at 8:44 am to lsufanintexas
are you currently on test? if not the last thing you need to do is get on it for one test that was still decent. get mutiple test done and establish a trend.
how is your diet and training? if its not optimized, do that first.
sleep....optimize it
are you taking zinc, boron and a couple other test boosters? if not go that route if mutiple test show you are low.
test- doest cause rage. roid rage is a myth. steroids tend to amplify your current traits with the exception of halo, mtren and for some tren itself. Eq can cause anxiety. but test....nope especially when talking wihtin the normal range.
as far as where you should go
1) 447 is not low
2) if you wanted to do something....dont just go to 600, thats stupid and a waste of time.
3) if you want to do something, go to 900 and get your free test checeked, get a full female blood panel done and check gh levels.
how is your diet and training? if its not optimized, do that first.
sleep....optimize it
are you taking zinc, boron and a couple other test boosters? if not go that route if mutiple test show you are low.
test- doest cause rage. roid rage is a myth. steroids tend to amplify your current traits with the exception of halo, mtren and for some tren itself. Eq can cause anxiety. but test....nope especially when talking wihtin the normal range.
as far as where you should go
1) 447 is not low
2) if you wanted to do something....dont just go to 600, thats stupid and a waste of time.
3) if you want to do something, go to 900 and get your free test checeked, get a full female blood panel done and check gh levels.
Posted on 11/12/21 at 10:42 am to lsu777
quote:
are you currently on test? if not the last thing you need to do is get on it for one test that was still decent. get mutiple test done and establish a trend.
how is your diet and training? if its not optimized, do that first.
sleep....optimize it
are you taking zinc, boron and a couple other test boosters? if not go that route if mutiple test show you are low.
test- doest cause rage. roid rage is a myth. steroids tend to amplify your current traits with the exception of halo, mtren and for some tren itself. Eq can cause anxiety. but test....nope especially when talking wihtin the normal range.
as far as where you should go
1) 447 is not low
2) if you wanted to do something....dont just go to 600, thats stupid and a waste of time.
3) if you want to do something, go to 900 and get your free test checeked, get a full female blood panel done and check gh levels.
Totally agree with this, waste of time going from 447 to 600, you will not feel any difference, perhaps a placebo.
In my experience (and many others), you will feel the difference being low (say 200 or less), you will feel a difference going from low to "normal/average", and you will feel a difference at high levels (say above 800). Trying to go from 447 to 600 with TRT is a waste of time/effort/money IMHO.
In addition to what lsu777 said, I would make sure healthy fats are in my diet, as they are a precursor to testosterone. I also notice a difference training with heavy weights, compound lifts, etc. When I optimized my sleep, added zinc/ZMA, added more healthy fats, lift heavy, I personally went from around 200 to 400+ on my own.
Posted on 11/12/21 at 11:05 pm to lsufanintexas
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Testosterone clinic wants to optimize my levels and get it to around 600. Will this actually help me?
It will help but won’t be as drastic as pushing up near 1000. I’m assuming they will gradually increase your levels while keeping an eye on your prostate levels and mood.
My last test had me around 980 but I’ve been on it for about 18 months now.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:22 pm to lsufanintexas
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Testosterone clinic wants to optimize my levels and get it to around 600
The T clinic wants to just make money off you. 447 will not qualify you for insurance (well 90% of the insurance companies), so you will probably be out of pocket. With all the blood draws for labs and shots will get pricey.
True story - I had some T level tests done a while back. Having sex the night before the 2nd test boosted my T levels up near 200 points from the 1st test.
Moral of the story - Have sex, lift weights and eat right. If you finally get to sub 300, then entertain TRT.
Follow what everyone else said, 447 to 600 is stupid. If you are going to do it shoot for North of 800.
Posted on 11/17/21 at 10:51 am to DarthRebel
Had mine checked yesterday. 4 weeks post BioTE pellets.
Total 1042
Free 300
Total 1042
Free 300
Posted on 11/18/21 at 12:05 pm to tke_swamprat
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Total 1042
Free 300
Well, you are off the charts. You sure your free is not 30. Having 300 free would put you in Hulk territory
Posted on 11/18/21 at 1:09 pm to DarthRebel
Total range is 300-1080
Free range is 47-244
Free range is 47-244
Posted on 11/18/21 at 1:41 pm to tke_swamprat
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Free range is 47-244
OK, probably just different measurements. Pg vs. ng, why can we not use the same
Yeah 300 would be off the charts for an 18 year old
Posted on 11/18/21 at 4:00 pm to DarthRebel
Yea I’m almost 40 lol. My wife wishes my total and free was lower.
Posted on 11/18/21 at 4:34 pm to tke_swamprat
Oh you dog.
Posted on 11/18/21 at 5:46 pm to NotoriousFSU
curious, have any of those low T centers ever told someone they were good and didnt need help?
I always assumed those were snake oil places and didnt trust the numbers. I assume they tell everyone they are low
I always assumed those were snake oil places and didnt trust the numbers. I assume they tell everyone they are low
Posted on 11/18/21 at 6:36 pm to dallastiger55
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. I assume they tell everyone they are low
No, I failed before. Well at least from an insurance stand point. If you want to go out of pocket, they sure as heck will take your money. Most do other shots as well, so they will always give you something.
Posted on 11/18/21 at 7:04 pm to dallastiger55
It's about symptoms, and numbers. So you might not be super low but if your symptoms are screwing you up, you'll likely get a script.
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