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Shoulder pain. What’s the deal?
Posted on 4/18/21 at 4:29 pm
Posted on 4/18/21 at 4:29 pm
Noticed it doing shoulders a few days ago. Right shoulder.
Today I started on BP and something was definitely hurting. It’s like where my collar bone meets my shoulder. What could that be and how long do I need to stay off it/go volume instead of heavy?
Cable flys were fine, around the world with dumbels was fine, bench press and incline press not so much.
Today I started on BP and something was definitely hurting. It’s like where my collar bone meets my shoulder. What could that be and how long do I need to stay off it/go volume instead of heavy?
Cable flys were fine, around the world with dumbels was fine, bench press and incline press not so much.
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Posted on 4/18/21 at 4:46 pm to pwejr88
Depending on age, could be nerve impingement/rotator cuff tendonitis. I had it in both shoulders. Went under the knife on both (not at the same time). Getting old sucks.
Posted on 4/18/21 at 5:52 pm to RoyalWe
Yeah late 30’s. Been working out for about 2 years with no issues though.
This post was edited on 4/18/21 at 5:53 pm
Posted on 4/18/21 at 6:53 pm to pwejr88
Could be biceps or labrum if it is hurting in the front of the shoulder
Posted on 4/18/21 at 6:58 pm to pwejr88
I’ve always considered shoulder pain a fact of life.
Shoulders are too complex a thing not to hurt, huh?
Shoulders are too complex a thing not to hurt, huh?
Posted on 4/18/21 at 7:30 pm to pwejr88
Could be your lifting technique. If you are not engaging your upper back properly, you can experience shoulder pain. I’m making an assumption, but you’re not providing a lot of information.
Posted on 4/18/21 at 9:49 pm to DeafJam73
Sure thing. What other information would you like?
Posted on 4/18/21 at 9:59 pm to pwejr88
Does it hurt all the time? Does it hurt under heavy load? How about rotation?
Posted on 4/19/21 at 6:47 am to pwejr88
Literally tons of reasons for it to bother you a little bit and not immediately jump to rotator cuff tears, labral tears, etc.
Are you using dumbbells or barbells? What kind of splits are you doing? What’s the rest of your routine look like? Does it hurt with push ups?
Are you using dumbbells or barbells? What kind of splits are you doing? What’s the rest of your routine look like? Does it hurt with push ups?
Posted on 4/19/21 at 6:50 am to DeafJam73
Doesn’t hurt all the time. Yeah it hurts under heavy load but not during rotation.
Posted on 4/19/21 at 6:57 am to TheZaba
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Are you using dumbbells or barbells? What kind of splits are you doing? What’s the rest of your routine look like? Does it hurt with push ups?
Barbell is when it started noticeably hurting but I use both.
I rest 45-1 for volume, 1:30-2 for strength.
Does not hurt when I do push-ups
Posted on 4/19/21 at 9:10 am to pwejr88
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Barbell is when it started noticeably hurting but I use both.
I rest 45-1 for volume, 1:30-2 for strength.
Does not hurt when I do push-ups
ok all that info helps. So does it hurt at a specific point in the lift suddenly or all the way through.
Does it hurt on dips? what about overhead press? what about dumbbell work?
also what does your shoulder routine look like? Especially warm up.
Posted on 4/19/21 at 9:32 am to pwejr88
Remember, I’m not a doctor. So take my advice with a grain of salt. To me, that sounds like a technique issue. Based on what I have experienced, that could be two things: your elbows are flaring out too wide when you’re pressing, or you’re not engaging your upper back enough when pressing. Both of those can make you press from an unstable position, putting the load on your shoulders.
Posted on 4/19/21 at 9:34 am to lsu777
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ok all that info helps. So does it hurt at a specific point in the lift suddenly or all the way through.
Does it hurt on dips? what about overhead press? what about dumbbell work?
also what does your shoulder routine look like? Especially warm up.
These are all great questions, too. Answer these, and 777 can probably give you direction.
Posted on 4/19/21 at 10:02 am to lsu777
Hard to give 100% useful advice over the internet without getting a true assessment. But I’m sure your shoulder routine can be tweaked to help
You can also probably modify your pressing to do lighter weight, more of a 5-3-1 movement tempo, or alter the range to help offload the shoulder and still train it
You can also probably modify your pressing to do lighter weight, more of a 5-3-1 movement tempo, or alter the range to help offload the shoulder and still train it
This post was edited on 4/19/21 at 10:13 am
Posted on 4/19/21 at 10:17 am to lsu777
Thanks guys. Some great stuff I will look at. I’ll be able to answer the rest of these questions today or tomorrow. I’ll go by the gym and do some more investigative work
Posted on 4/19/21 at 10:37 am to pwejr88
I had this exact pain. For me, it was due to too much pressing, and not enough back exercises. With your pressing, like chest press, you need to balance yourself with the pulling, like rows.
Focusing on more rows for a few weeks helped eliminate the pain.
Focusing on more rows for a few weeks helped eliminate the pain.
Posted on 4/19/21 at 11:09 am to irishTiger18
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Focusing on more rows for a few weeks helped eliminate the pain.
that is one of the biggest things. for most if you get past very beginner levels of strength, you should be doing horizontal pulling 2:1 for horizontal pressing at a minimum. Should be more horizontal pulling then vertical also.
now beginners are different.
I posted my warm up routine in the warm up thread below. It covers alot of this.
Posted on 4/19/21 at 11:48 am to TheZaba
What about this issue for chest pain. For a few weeks now I've had pain when I do flat bench. I'm fine through warm up and then when I hit 135 I have pain in my pec below my left armpit maybe an inch or two below where my pec hits my shoulder. It's only sharp temporary pain. I can lift through it, but it hurts. As soon as I'm done with a set I'm back to normal. It doesn't hurt when i stretch or swing my arms after the set. I have noticed it when doing dips and chins, but not as sharp. It doesn't seem to bother me when I do incline and no pain at all when doing overhead press. I took 3 days off then tried yesterday and it was still there.
This post was edited on 4/19/21 at 11:54 am
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