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re: Pen and Paper Strength App

Posted on 4/9/25 at 11:18 am to
Posted by Samso
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Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 4/9/25 at 11:18 am to
Finishing up Pool Season II this week. This was my first Pen and Paper program and it was very challenging, but rewarding - noticeable strength and size gains.

From reading this thread I think this falls in the “intermediate” category in terms of difficulty but if you are someone like me who hasn’t done intense deadlift sessions in a while - it will crush you.

Like I said in an earlier post I got heavy fatigue towards the end of some sessions - like really struggling to finish.

Thinking of trying garlic milkshake next since it’s a 3 day program.
Posted by Tiger_n_Texas
Member since Aug 2014
1257 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 11:43 am to
quote:

Samso
I wrapped up Benchuary this morning and plan on starting Garlic Milkshake Monday. In previewing, it looks like each day is 15-18 working sets. Also, there are some high weight %'s planned. Plans ends with deadlift@85%, back squat@97%, bench press@97%, and sumo deadlift@88%. It also has (don't dare make eye contact with anyone while doing them) BB hip thrusts.
This post was edited on 4/9/25 at 12:11 pm
Posted by jose
Houma
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 4/9/25 at 12:09 pm to
I’ve been looking at trying that one next month or going back to Arm Farm for the summertime.

That 97% squat doesn’t sound fun
Posted by Samso
nyc
Member since Jun 2013
4920 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 3:11 pm to
quote:

I wrapped up Benchuary this morning and plan on starting Garlic Milkshake Monday. In previewing, it looks like each day is 15-18 working sets. Also, there are some high weight %'s planned. Plans ends with deadlift@85%, back squat@97%, bench press@97%, and sumo deadlift@88%. It also has (don't dare make eye contact with anyone while doing them) BB hip thrusts


I saw the BB hip thrusts as well. I was thinking of subbing with the hip thrusts machine at my gym.
Posted by cfish140
BR
Member since Aug 2007
8023 posts
Posted on 4/10/25 at 2:32 pm to
Finished PS1 last week and started PS2 this week. I do remember the Deadlift days on PS2 being pretty intense, then I got to it and remembered it puts both regular and snatch grip on the same day which is brutal. Bumped my maxes up for this plan for the first time in months.

180 lbs:
Bench-285
Dead-400

Been stuck on 280 and 390 for awhile but felt strong my last 2 programs so went up and so far so good. I sub leg press for squats so not sure of a squat max
Posted by Tiger_n_Texas
Member since Aug 2014
1257 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 1:44 pm to
I needed a filler workout to finish out the week. Since it's getting close to Easter, I ran JACKED Bunny. I've been focusing on bench since the beginning of February and neglected squat and deadlifts. It made today's workout LONG. I had to leave the gym before the cardio SS due to time; completed cardio at home.

SS1
Bench Press 4x10 (60-65%)
DB Farmers Walk 4x40yds

Back Squat 5x5 (70-80%)

SS2
Pull-Ups 4x2-5
Snatch Grip Deadlift 4x7 (50-55%)

SS3
Standing BB OHP 4x8
DB Overhead Farmers Walk 4x40yds

Cardio (SS)
Bench Dips 4xAMRAP
BB Burl 4x20
Posted by salt of the girth
Member since Apr 2025
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 9:42 am to
Ran 70s Big late 2024. That was a whale, if you're into hypertrophy and a shitload of volume on compound movements.

Finished Fillin' Out The Hoodie Pt 2 in early April. The leg work is only on Wednesdays and is 5 sets of squats - that's it, so I decided to run Squatober 2024 directly after. Today is day 10, and I feel pretty good outside of a biting right hip.

Not sure what I want to run after, looking for recommendations. Pool Season 2 is at the top of my list, for obvious reasons.
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
30648 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 6:26 pm to
Did the Bench Reps correct for the first time ever on Pool Season W4D2, every other time I have ran it I have mixed up the weights and reps. With that said, great lift today and the ability to do dips is intoxicating.
This post was edited on 4/24/25 at 6:27 pm
Posted by Tiger_n_Texas
Member since Aug 2014
1257 posts
Posted on 4/25/25 at 9:02 am to
Wrapped up the first 2 weeks of Garlic Milkshake. So far all 6 days have been right at 75-90 min for 15-18 working sets; that includes warm-up stretching/light sets, setup, workout, and clean-up. I was a little unsure about moving down to a 3 day/week plan, but this one packs more of a punch than I anticipated. All days have the same general layout; primary lift, secondary lift, 2 lift SS, then 3/4 lift SS. The 'Strong Blend' portion of the workout is arm/shoulder focused and (most days) leaves an insane pump.

There's a few of the SS combinations that I still need to workout the correct weights on. An example would be the pull-ups and high rep DB RDL combination. I've heard/read several times that if you aren't using straps on RDLs, then you're not going heavy enough; grip strength shouldn't be the limiting factor on them. Well going that heavy on RDLs leaves my grip and forearm dead. Even after the rest period, the next set of pull-ups afterwards was a struggle (and each subsequent set just got worse). I need to find the right balance where I can hit the pull-up reps completely while not decreasing the RDLs to just going thru the motion.
Posted by cfish140
BR
Member since Aug 2007
8023 posts
Posted on 4/26/25 at 11:06 am to
Thinking about doing another 5 day/week program for May because ill be on a turnaround making it easy to get into an after work routine. Absolutely loved Dr jacked and Return of Dr Jacked which were both 5 days. Looking at Elbow Meat and Jacked Up Joker if anybody has ran these

Elbow Meat looks fairly intense, arms everyday along with bench 3x a week and alot of grip work. Jacked up Joker may be a better choice for summer because it has alot of high volume high rep stuff. I just dont like how it dosent have deads.
Posted by Samso
nyc
Member since Jun 2013
4920 posts
Posted on 4/26/25 at 11:08 am to
I’m in week 2 of garlic milkshake (this is my second p&p program). So far I would say I prefer PS2 to this one. I suck at Bulgarian splits and some of the supersets require too much logistics to execute efficiently - especially if you work out in a busy gym.

But will definitely keep going. Maybe my attitude will change as I get used to the exercises.
Posted by Tiger_n_Texas
Member since Aug 2014
1257 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 9:52 am to
I'd say days 6, 12, 18, and 24 are the worst as far as SS setup. The BB hip thrusts/chest supported rows combination followed by Arnold press/skullcrushers/concentration curls take the most setup. Even then, it's not horrible to switch between them; just adjust the bench from flat to seated to angled as needed.

The rest of the SS combinations typically just use a bench or pully tower and DB/BB/EZ bar.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
32905 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 12:24 pm to
Looks like he is running a deal today and Hypertrophy is only $20.

I think I'm gonna pick it up. I'm finishing up PS2 again this week. Any pros/cons for this plan?
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