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re: Pen and Paper Strength App

Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:37 pm to
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:37 pm to
I will wrap up filling out the hoodie tomorrow morning and start filling out the hoodie 2 on Monday
Posted by Tiger_n_Texas
Member since Aug 2014
1304 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 7:50 am to
Finished up Arm Farm yesterday. This last week was tough. Tweaked my right elbow Monday (I believe on the 4th set of Zottmans). Even with a compression sleeve I occasionally got dull pain on certain movements.

I know this isn't a completely fair comparison (going from Deadcember to Arm Farm), but I feel like I regressed on deadlift. The last 2 sets yesterday were tough.

With that said, I think the plan lived up to its name. Pretty much every day my arms were on fire at the end. It's probably in my head, but I do feel like I gained some size in my arms/shoulders.

Now on to Benchuary!
Posted by b_w
Member since Dec 2016
311 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 9:33 am to
Finished 3 weeks of Dumbbell strength, really like it and good change of pace from Deadcember. 14yr old running it to, going to have him repeat it but I’m switching over to benchuary
Posted by BrewDrees95
Member since Jan 2021
468 posts
Posted on 2/5/25 at 11:01 am to
Finishing up pump city next week. Have done PS1, PS2, arm farm, silverback, FOTH1 &2

Any suggestions where to go next? Maybe something good for the traps? TIA
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38069 posts
Posted on 2/5/25 at 11:47 am to
quote:

Any suggestions where to go next? Maybe something good for the traps? TIA


i mean off the top of my head, hypertrophy or big back billy but what are your goals? how many days a week?
Posted by BrewDrees95
Member since Jan 2021
468 posts
Posted on 2/5/25 at 5:13 pm to
4 days week and upper body focus
Posted by JL
Member since Aug 2006
3250 posts
Posted on 2/5/25 at 5:50 pm to
I remember parts of 70’s big being trap heavy. Big back Billy and oak tree are two of my favorites with lots of shrugs, face pulls, dead’s, etc.
Posted by Tiger_n_Texas
Member since Aug 2014
1304 posts
Posted on 2/5/25 at 6:14 pm to
Big Back Billy has been my favorite plan so far.

4 days/week
Deadlift, Snatch Deadlift, Bench, Squat all twice a week.

Edit: Wanted to add that (while it's not PPSA), Benchuary is shaping up to be better than expected. It's doesn't target legs at all (so far), but it'll build your upper back for sure with all the pull-ups and rows. Check it out on IG or the thread Jose started here.
This post was edited on 2/6/25 at 7:00 am
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38069 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 7:21 am to
so i would look at these

21 to party
benchamin franklin
big back billy

and believe it or not, strongville.
Posted by JBebs
Member since Oct 2024
10 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 12:29 pm to
Just finished up Oak Tree 3x per week and really enjoyed it. Excited for more workouts per week and will be starting mass that lasts next.

Looking at Mass that Lasts... does anyone have insight into how you've approached the exercises that have a % range? for example bench press is 65%-72% on day 1 and deadlift is 70%-75%.

My first thought would be just to start on the lower end of that range and then go up as the program goes on, but there is already progression built into increasing the ranges as the program goes on. Is this unique to Mass that Lasts?
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38069 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 12:57 pm to
quote:

My first thought would be just to start on the lower end of that range and then go up as the program goes on, but there is already progression built into increasing the ranges as the program goes on


so i would start at lower end and see how it feels, if you are able to get it, go up on %.
Posted by JBebs
Member since Oct 2024
10 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 1:24 pm to
within a day? as in, on day 1 start at 65% and if it feels good go up in each successive set 'til it doesn't feel good or I hit the top of the range?
Posted by JL
Member since Aug 2006
3250 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 1:48 pm to
I know what weight I want to hit for my last two sets and just back calculate from there for the early sets. Sometimes I just use the first set as a warmup if it’s something like 5 sets of deadlift. Hit first set at 225 then ramp up to make sure my last 2 sets are at the weight I want.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38069 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 2:01 pm to
you can do it that away

then next time that same % comes up, do 2 sets at the top weight, week 3 do 3, week 4 do 4


or

week by week going up

or

go up each set the first time that comes up, find which weight is very challenging but allows you to finish or if you go up more would not be able to perform all sets and reps and pick that as % to use.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38069 posts
Posted on 2/11/25 at 1:50 pm to
did w2d1 of FOTH2.

This is my first time through this program and actually like it the best of any so far.

i did tweak my back last week and missed friday. Will make it up. I missed a step climbing in the attic. strained my neck a little today too on the skull crushers
Posted by BrewDrees95
Member since Jan 2021
468 posts
Posted on 2/16/25 at 4:53 pm to
Deciding between periodic table of thickness or meat wagon. Anyone run or recommend either of these? Goal is to continue to add size before starting pool season and arm farm for the summer
This post was edited on 2/16/25 at 4:54 pm
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38069 posts
Posted on 2/16/25 at 7:57 pm to
Both are really good

Ptot- you will squat, bench, row on 2 days and then dl, press, chins 2 days plus accessories

MW- all super sets with 2 days of push&legs together then 2 days of pull

Personally I think ptot is one of the best programs he wrote from a strength/size perspective as you are gonna hit heavy weights on the compounds heavy and often
Posted by BrewDrees95
Member since Jan 2021
468 posts
Posted on 2/16/25 at 9:01 pm to
Thank you as always
Posted by biggles1883
Member since Feb 2025
52 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 1:05 pm to
Stacked Jacked & Turning Heads, Periodic Table of Thickness, Mass that Lasts
Posted by biggles1883
Member since Feb 2025
52 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 1:07 pm to
New to this forum. Been checking this every so often to see what new programs PPSA are worth checking out. I been running PPSA since 2018. I am a Former UAB FB player, my S&C used to do AA's IG workouts for fun in the weight room and I needed direction post football. Bought a few of the OG plans and never looked back. Happy to join the thread/convo with yall
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