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re: Need to lower my cholesterol ...updated with my #s
Posted on 8/28/18 at 12:01 pm to Gorilla Fingers
Posted on 8/28/18 at 12:01 pm to Gorilla Fingers
quote:To be clear, I'm not meat only. I guess you would say I'm low-carb with a tilt to protein.
interesting. honestly, i'm surprised a meat only diet would register that low.
quote:To be fair, that is still in the good range.
While on AIP the lowest my CRP ever registered was 2.0,
quote:That's interesting. It's certainly possible that you have at least a mild meat allergy. I've actually seen it go the other way with Crohn's/gut stuff. A friend of mine had a GF with this and she was doing vegetarian. She has essentially flipped to meat and veggies only and she has almost no problems.
For the past year or 2 I've done probably 90% plant based. By that I mean all fruits, veggies, legumes, oats, quinoa, potatoes and rice. I do enjoy weekend seafood. I eat no gluten grains, breads, desserts, alcohol, oils, or coffee. The gut healed up on this and I no longer suffer from the chrohn's stuff.
quote:Still low though! Don't be too bummed.
CRP is still around 1.7 though which kind of bums me out.
quote:Sorry to hear that, man. I really am. I hope you can continue to find ways to effectively address your condition. Sounds like you are healthy overall, though.
the other issue is ankylosing spondylitis, an inflammation arthritis that attacks the spine. Quality of life has greatly improved eating this way but it hasn't been the 100% miracle reversal I had hoped it would be. Every 2 months or so I usually take a shot of Enbrel as symptoms creep back.
Question: if you actually did try an all meat diet, it's your prediction that it would cause a rise in inflammation as well as a return to gut issues?
I actually have someone you should do a phone consult with if you are interested. She would be very capable of taking your circumstances in toto and designing a regimen for you. LMK
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Posted on 8/28/18 at 12:17 pm to Big Scrub TX
I'm not necessarily looking to make another dramatic, sweeping change or eliminating any more foods. I'm sick of eliminating options at this point.
The main catalyst for flare ups at this stage seems to be when I get lazy with oils or if a restaurant sneaks some dairy in on me. Dairy for sure jacks me up.
Last week while working on the road with some people I enjoyed bbq and steak on consecutive days with no ill effects. Whenever I eat meat I avoid starches and pair with leafy greens. There seems to be something with the starch/meat combo that aggravates.
Anyway, it's all very interesting and there is no doubt that whether plant based or protein based, if you cut out all the other garbage in the SAD, you will feel better.
The main catalyst for flare ups at this stage seems to be when I get lazy with oils or if a restaurant sneaks some dairy in on me. Dairy for sure jacks me up.
Last week while working on the road with some people I enjoyed bbq and steak on consecutive days with no ill effects. Whenever I eat meat I avoid starches and pair with leafy greens. There seems to be something with the starch/meat combo that aggravates.
Anyway, it's all very interesting and there is no doubt that whether plant based or protein based, if you cut out all the other garbage in the SAD, you will feel better.
This post was edited on 8/28/18 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 8/28/18 at 3:03 pm to Gorilla Fingers
i have some inflammation marker numbers that will blow your mind. From before i started keto and got lymphoma, to now. I haven't don't my CRP since i started treatment or chemo, but it was sky high. i'll add that to my next test.
but my sedimentation rate was something obscene like 72 or something, and is not less than 1 (and has been for over a year following chemo). pretty nuts.
but my sedimentation rate was something obscene like 72 or something, and is not less than 1 (and has been for over a year following chemo). pretty nuts.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 3:22 pm to McLemore
quote:There's always a chance that he has a sensitivity to meat that is not shared by the gen pop. But overall, the claim that "read meat is inflammatory" is just not supported by the available evidence.
i have some inflammation marker numbers that will blow your mind. From before i started keto and got lymphoma, to now. I haven't don't my CRP since i started treatment or chemo, but it was sky high. i'll add that to my next test.
but my sedimentation rate was something obscene like 72 or something, and is not less than 1 (and has been for over a year following chemo). pretty nuts.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 3:54 pm to Big Scrub TX
Yeah, like that crazy alpha-gal shite. That would suck butt.
Posted on 8/30/18 at 9:17 am to Big Scrub TX
Updated
Posted on 8/30/18 at 10:43 am to p&g
quote:
p&g
Dang, man...your tris are 235?!?!
That is certainly worth addressing. Your Tri:HDL ratio is about 2.8, though, which isn't catastrophic (would like to see it below 2 and as close to 0 as possible.)
The tris being that high makes me think you are eating A LOT of sugar/carbs/grains. If it were me, I would begin restricting them immediately.
But I'll hang up and listen to some of the other opinions.
Good luck!
Posted on 8/30/18 at 12:23 pm to Big Scrub TX
I don’t eat a lot of sugars, carbs or grains.
Drink water and beer on occasion.
No soft drinks or sugary drinks
Little to no sweets, breads , pasta, rice.
Drink water and beer on occasion.
No soft drinks or sugary drinks
Little to no sweets, breads , pasta, rice.
Posted on 8/30/18 at 3:00 pm to p&g
In my experience, moderate diet, regular exercise and Lipitor work great together on LDL andHDL levels. Don’t be afraid of statins unless you’re a heavy drinker or eat a lot of grapefruit.
Posted on 8/30/18 at 3:07 pm to VOR
quote:He doesn't have a cholesterol problem - he has a trigylceride problem, IMO.
In my experience, moderate diet, regular exercise and Lipitor work great together on LDL andHDL levels. Don’t be afraid of statins unless you’re a heavy drinker or eat a lot of grapefruit.
Posted on 8/30/18 at 3:18 pm to p&g
2 things
1) you won't keel over
2) share your HDL plz
Also, if you could list your food for typical week. I Believe you when you say you don't eat a lot of sugar or grains, but your triglycerides say otherwise. We can see if there's something you could cut out without going Keto that should help your triglycerides plumet.
You should get your liver enzymes checked next time you have Labs drawn.
1) you won't keel over
2) share your HDL plz
Also, if you could list your food for typical week. I Believe you when you say you don't eat a lot of sugar or grains, but your triglycerides say otherwise. We can see if there's something you could cut out without going Keto that should help your triglycerides plumet.
You should get your liver enzymes checked next time you have Labs drawn.
Posted on 8/30/18 at 9:29 pm to FatMan
Breakfast
Eggs and a meat protein
Lunch salad Or wrap
Dinner depends but generally a grilled fish or steak or chicken with grilled steamed veggies
I’ll have a few fries 1-2 week with a meal never eat them all.
Little to no bread, pasta or rice.
Drink cup coffee straight black every am.
Eggs and a meat protein
Lunch salad Or wrap
Dinner depends but generally a grilled fish or steak or chicken with grilled steamed veggies
I’ll have a few fries 1-2 week with a meal never eat them all.
Little to no bread, pasta or rice.
Drink cup coffee straight black every am.
This post was edited on 8/30/18 at 9:31 pm
Posted on 8/30/18 at 10:14 pm to p&g
Did you have a hard workout before labs? Really need to look at your liver enzymes.
Posted on 8/30/18 at 10:15 pm to McLemore
quote:
I haven't don't my CRP since i started treatment or chemo, but it was sky high. i'll add that to my next test.
I've read that a 24hr fast before chemo lessened the reactions, have your heard any of that? >5% carbs keto was the range.
Posted on 8/30/18 at 10:22 pm to FatMan
So, sounds like your extremely low carb. Even if you fasted for labs, a moderate to strenuous workout within 24 hours before labs can mobilize fat from the body. Look into Dave Feldman on YouTube. My highest triglycerides post Keto were 155, I accidentally had a fasted CrossFit session the morning of, next time I drew I did no exercise for 2 days before and trigs went to 47... Your greatest indicator for heart disease (besides a calcium score or particle test) is Trig/HDL ratio. Let's assume you had a false high on your trigs, if your HDL level is high, then you probably have nothing to worry about.
Posted on 8/30/18 at 10:23 pm to Big Scrub TX
I agree with big scrub, triglycerides are the problem here.
Posted on 8/31/18 at 4:38 am to p&g
quote:
In my experience, moderate diet, regular exercise and Lipitor work great together on LDL andHDL levels. Don’t be afraid of statins unless you’re a heavy drinker or eat a lot of grapefruit.
Please please please see a Dr who will give you better advice than this.
You are nowhere near knowing whether a statin will help you (especially on balance w side effects). Find a specialist who can help you really analyze what's up w your crazy trigs and obviously start w an NMR LDL-P.
If your doctor scratches his/her head, rolls eyes or scoffs at your request for this panel then walk out.
Edit: and what fat man said. I hadn't scrolled through the uodates. I just saw that trig score and yikes.
This post was edited on 8/31/18 at 4:41 am
Posted on 8/31/18 at 9:50 am to Big Scrub TX
All of my levels improved with Lipitor.
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