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re: Need to lower my cholesterol ...updated with my #s

Posted on 8/31/18 at 3:04 pm to
Posted by HamCandy
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 8/31/18 at 3:04 pm to
I wanted to hop in here and see what your thoughts were for me:

chol:238
hdl:40
hdl/ratio: 16.8
ldl: 169.4
non-hdl: 198
total/HD ratio: 6.0
Trigl: 143

I'm 34, 6'1" 165ibs-175ibs.

Ive always had high chol, i'm assuming its the diet and exerices.

Posted by ecb
Member since Jul 2010
10221 posts
Posted on 9/2/18 at 4:18 pm to
Chrestor messed up my liver for a year, and I don't drink. Statins help some, kill others.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
35330 posts
Posted on 9/3/18 at 5:16 am to
quote:

Statins help some, kill others.


yeah, i'm not "anti-statin," just like I'm not anti-antibiotics. but both are absurdly over-prescribed due in part to abject laziness of PCPs.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
35330 posts
Posted on 9/3/18 at 5:29 am to
Those trigs numbers/ratios are pretty darned high. yes, changing your eating habits and doing regular low-intensity (or high if you want but not necessary) exercise should bring that way down.

If you eat sugar and processed carbs, start with cutting that (including fruit juice--none).
Same with veggie oil, soybean oil and other high polyunsaturated fats (the ones high in Omega 6)--substitute with olive oil and avocado oil, high oleic sunflower oil and less-so canola oil.

ETA: and alcohol--sorry. But these three things should get you back into safe range and you can adjust from there based on your lifestyle desires and risk-aversion level.

What is your saturated fat intake like? I wouldn't alter it just yet, whatever it is. I would see what the two changes above do first, and then see if you may be an LDL hyper-responder. I doubt it, as your LDL numbers aren't that high (And I'd do an NMR LDL-P after the above two changes, before worrying with SFA intake, whatever your current intake habits are.)

Eat this way for two weeks and go get another lipid panel (Again, I would also do NMR but you could wait to see what these changes do, and then order).

I swear I'm not an ad-bot for walkinlab, but if you don't want to go to the doctor to experiment with these changes, then just order bloodwork on there. it's super cheap and easy. and you're supporting a Louisiana company. I'm sure you can use a Flex card too. Not sure about insurance.
This post was edited on 9/3/18 at 5:39 am
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
35330 posts
Posted on 9/3/18 at 5:33 am to
quote:

All of my levels improved with Lipitor.


that doesn't mean your overall CVD risk levels dropped to any statistical significance or that you aren't counterbalancing neuroprotective effects of cholesterol (yes, including LDL), and/or wrecking something else.

I'm not saying you aren't one of the people who net-benefits from statins. But "improved numbers" don't tell the whole story.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
45367 posts
Posted on 9/3/18 at 10:10 pm to
What changes in diet did you make post cancer?
Posted by AA77
Member since Jan 2016
3855 posts
Posted on 9/5/18 at 1:49 pm to
I had a couple of leg injuries that set me back in my general , even though running up to them my fitness and diet were both blah at best. So my Tri numbers were high nothing sky high, but they were around 230. So I started working out everyday lots of cardio at first, I picked up cycling because I have do low impact because of my leg issues.

Changed up my diet cut out red meat pretty much entirely, soda entirely, refined surges, starches, carbs, butter out, I do eat fried food on rare occasions, and cut way down on the alcohol. Started eating a lot salads, vegetables/fruit, lean protein, and tree nuts.

I also an omega 3 supplement to my diet. This is the brand I use: LINK

Ended up losing weight and 6 months or so later went back to the doctor and my Tri levels were around 60. Good luck.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
35330 posts
Posted on 9/8/18 at 10:34 am to
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Changed up my diet cut out red meat pretty much entirely


Curious what your reasoning was behind cutting out a nutrient dense healthy food. As in truly curious not trolling.

And to the OP and generally re cholesterol numbers-- you realize they can fluctuate widely throughout the week and even day, right? If you're having a lipid panel done once a year then you're just pissing in the wind trying to guess at your lipoprotein status.

And, again, if you are trying to base anything on a basic test without NMR you're basically wasting your time with the exception of those with shitty trig:HDL ratio.

Cutting red meat is not the way to improve that, fwiw

I see Dr. Roger Klavin, MD continues to downvote me and misunderstand lipoproteins. Lol.
This post was edited on 9/8/18 at 1:43 pm
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