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Nagging tendon pain
Posted on 2/8/24 at 7:47 pm
Posted on 2/8/24 at 7:47 pm
Any pointers on getting over nagging tendon pain where my bicep connects at the elbow?
Posted on 2/9/24 at 7:43 am to PCHSDawg
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Any pointers on getting over nagging tendon pain where my bicep connects at the elbow?
It sounds like some kind of tendonitis. Therabands have helped me with this before
Posted on 2/9/24 at 8:53 am to PCHSDawg
Look up tennis elbow, golfer's elbow & radial tunnel syndrome to figure out which one it is. You can find exercises & stretches that can help it out.
Posted on 2/9/24 at 9:19 am to PCHSDawg
What have you tried. Sometimes tricky because you can re Injure easily. Elbow brace, Motrin etc. Maybe try voltaren also.
Posted on 2/9/24 at 9:47 am to PCHSDawg
Posted on 2/9/24 at 11:40 am to BamaFanInTigerland
It's on the inside of my elbow, not the outside. Literally where the bicep meets the forearm. Injured it several years ago riding my mountain bike. Currently using voltaren and icy hot for pain. Between strength programs so I am trying to get my niggling injuries as healed as a 50ish yo old man can.
Oh and my current pullup max is 0.
Oh and my current pullup max is 0.
Posted on 2/9/24 at 11:52 am to PCHSDawg
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Oh and my current pullup max is 0.
Off the top of my head it seems like you could apply the principle in the linked video to some other exercise that mimics (re: the elbow) a chin-up.
And are you sure your chin-up max is zero?
Posted on 2/9/24 at 1:26 pm to PCHSDawg
Does it hurt above the elbow or below the elbow?
I had below the elbow pain on my right arm from bad grip setup on the squat, I mostly fixed it by fixing my grip width/hand placement, but I'm similar to you in that I can't do any chin-ups currently so I couldn't do this exact regimen.
I subbed them out for pull-downs using the same set/rep scheme and it has helped. I loaded up my pin with a pretty heavy weight, but nothing crazy(150lb-160lb). Just a weight that I thought would be perfect for making a really challenging set of 3 very slow and controlled reps. I pull-down slowly, full range of movement, and I count to 5 as I resist against the weight as the bar goes back up, to me, the eccentric phase of the pull-down, was the key.
Around set 5 of 10 I'd start to feel a dull throb from my right elbow. 20 second rest between sets of 3, I never did more than 10 total sets. My pain is 99% gone, so I may go up to doing 20 sets of 3 with a little less weight and see if it goes away completely. That dull throbbing pain remained for several hours, it felt like I could feel my heartbeat in my elbow, but the intensity was so low it wasn't really a bother. I would just tell myself that the throbbing was a sign of healing. I guess it worked.
I had to edit this because I realized I mis-typed out my set/rep scheme. 10 sets of 3, with 20 seconds rest in between sets. I also had my elbow sleeves on to aid in getting the joint warmer, faster.
I had below the elbow pain on my right arm from bad grip setup on the squat, I mostly fixed it by fixing my grip width/hand placement, but I'm similar to you in that I can't do any chin-ups currently so I couldn't do this exact regimen.
I subbed them out for pull-downs using the same set/rep scheme and it has helped. I loaded up my pin with a pretty heavy weight, but nothing crazy(150lb-160lb). Just a weight that I thought would be perfect for making a really challenging set of 3 very slow and controlled reps. I pull-down slowly, full range of movement, and I count to 5 as I resist against the weight as the bar goes back up, to me, the eccentric phase of the pull-down, was the key.
Around set 5 of 10 I'd start to feel a dull throb from my right elbow. 20 second rest between sets of 3, I never did more than 10 total sets. My pain is 99% gone, so I may go up to doing 20 sets of 3 with a little less weight and see if it goes away completely. That dull throbbing pain remained for several hours, it felt like I could feel my heartbeat in my elbow, but the intensity was so low it wasn't really a bother. I would just tell myself that the throbbing was a sign of healing. I guess it worked.
I had to edit this because I realized I mis-typed out my set/rep scheme. 10 sets of 3, with 20 seconds rest in between sets. I also had my elbow sleeves on to aid in getting the joint warmer, faster.
This post was edited on 2/9/24 at 7:41 pm
Posted on 2/9/24 at 7:06 pm to DrDenim
It hurts right in the crease of my elbow where the tendon that stands up when you bend your arm in a curl seems to end.
Posted on 2/9/24 at 8:03 pm to PCHSDawg
Sounds like you had a biceps strain. Strains, much like muscle soreness after training, are tears in your muscle/tendon/musculotendinous junction, except with strains they are too large for your body to heal by making new muscle/tendon so it fills in the torn area with scar tissue. It sounds like to me that you are having some issues with the scar tissue that was laid down. Unfortunately scar tissue is laid down haphazardly and often times you get that nagging pain with it.
You need to decrease the tension of your bicep. Stretching is good and I would suggest myofascial release as well(i.e. massage gun), followed by medium intensity eccentrics or heavy slow resistance (HSR), and finish it off with Transverse Friction Massage (TFM) at the point where you feel your pain. TFM and myofascial release can be done multiple times per day, but I would recommend you do the eccentrics and/or HSR every other day.
ETA: What kind of mountain bike do you have? Mountain biking is the only thing that has made my heart skip a beat since my time overseas. I've never had something humble me (I consider myself pretty fearless) more than mountain biking.
You need to decrease the tension of your bicep. Stretching is good and I would suggest myofascial release as well(i.e. massage gun), followed by medium intensity eccentrics or heavy slow resistance (HSR), and finish it off with Transverse Friction Massage (TFM) at the point where you feel your pain. TFM and myofascial release can be done multiple times per day, but I would recommend you do the eccentrics and/or HSR every other day.
ETA: What kind of mountain bike do you have? Mountain biking is the only thing that has made my heart skip a beat since my time overseas. I've never had something humble me (I consider myself pretty fearless) more than mountain biking.
This post was edited on 2/9/24 at 8:06 pm
Posted on 2/9/24 at 9:06 pm to PrezCock
Thanks for the advice. I live in fairly flat south Mississippi so I just ride a single speed hard tail. When I go to the mountains, or better yet central Florida I ride a Trek Fuel dual suspension with gears. I thought about trying to single up the dually, but it sucks in the mountains and I haven't found a tensioner that can adjust that much slack. I originally hurt my bicep by literally yanking the front of the bike sideways a foot to keep from smoking a tree that suddenly appeared in front of me.
Posted on 2/9/24 at 9:10 pm to PCHSDawg
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smoking a tree that suddenly appeared in front of me
I've had a few trees that have almost smoked the life out of me. Where do you go to ride in Central Florida? I live in Tampa so I usually ride Alafia but I go up to Santos a lot as well.
Posted on 2/9/24 at 9:32 pm to PrezCock
My favorite trail in the world is Alafia River, but Balm-Boyette is good too. Santos is either too easy or too hard for my old arse. I have also ridden Croom with similar results to Santos. My wife loves parks, so I bring her down and she does her thing and I do mine.
Posted on 2/9/24 at 10:07 pm to PCHSDawg
I like Balm, but the 1/2 mile of sugar sand you have to ride to begin and end your day absolutely sucks.
Vortex and Indigo Flow at Santos is amazing. Troll is a great trail as well up there, but it's in the middle of nowhere.
Croom is great if you want XC, some awesome miles. But there are some great tech, flow, and jump trail (drunken monkey).
ETA: But Alafia is my favorite Florida trail system, by far.
Vortex and Indigo Flow at Santos is amazing. Troll is a great trail as well up there, but it's in the middle of nowhere.
Croom is great if you want XC, some awesome miles. But there are some great tech, flow, and jump trail (drunken monkey).
ETA: But Alafia is my favorite Florida trail system, by far.
This post was edited on 2/9/24 at 10:10 pm
Posted on 2/10/24 at 2:46 am to PrezCock
Have you ridden in northwest Arkansas? They are the mecca for mtb anymore it seems.
Posted on 2/10/24 at 7:35 am to PCHSDawg
Bentonville is on the bucket list, but I haven't been there yet. I've pretty much stuck to Fl, Ga, NC, SC, and Al. From what I've seen, if I make that god awful road trip, I may never come back to Florida.
This post was edited on 2/10/24 at 7:35 am
Posted on 2/11/24 at 6:41 am to PCHSDawg
Look up BPC157. It’s helped my fricked up shoulder tremendously.
Posted on 2/11/24 at 6:40 pm to Uncle JackD
Any recommendations for sources?
Posted on 2/11/24 at 8:00 pm to PCHSDawg
You should be able to get it from a Doctor. Usually HRT clinics will sell you peptides. If you don't want to go that route than I suggest peptide sciences, they seem to have the best peptides.
Don't go with the sublingual application. Some say there is no difference, but anecdotally I see a lot of people say sublingual is good for the GI tract, but not good for injuries.
With that being said, BPC-157 is GREAT for healing. I just happen to think you're past that healing stage. You need to remodel the scar tissue that you have already built up.
ETA: spelling
Don't go with the sublingual application. Some say there is no difference, but anecdotally I see a lot of people say sublingual is good for the GI tract, but not good for injuries.
With that being said, BPC-157 is GREAT for healing. I just happen to think you're past that healing stage. You need to remodel the scar tissue that you have already built up.
ETA: spelling
This post was edited on 2/12/24 at 7:57 am
Posted on 2/11/24 at 8:35 pm to PCHSDawg
quote:I get mine from XCE. China.
Any recommendations for sources?
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