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re: My very simple diet/lifestyle advice

Posted on 5/23/17 at 1:28 pm to
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38069 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 1:28 pm to
Im talking about people like rocket eating a pizza or the guys on iifym and avatar facebook pages who plan their whole days around mcdonalds and pop tarts.

flexible dieting in general is not unhealthy, its those that take it to the extreme and have crazy omega 3 vs 6 inbalances and big time micronutrient defecienes I am speaking of.
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
83035 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 1:34 pm to
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For me, flexible dieting isn't trying to always mold my diet around whatever crazy food I feel like eating, but if I want something I can have a bit and track it, or if I overindulge a little I can make it up with macros from the rest of the week


I completely agree. A person shouldn't be doing this on a regular basis, but the ability to be able to when you want to is nice. I like that weddings, parties, nights out, etc. don't feel like I entirely fricked my diet up because I can simply budget around them.

I applaud people who can go straight protein and veg. I could never. Since I was a child, I've never been a meat + sides person. I like mixed things: sandwiches, salads, casseroles, etc. For that simple fact, going 100% protein + veg would be very restrictive for me. I used to just skip dinner entirely when my mother would prepare meat + sides dinners

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lsu777


Oh okay. I completely agree with you. On occasion, whatever. But on the reg? No way. Though I do it more than I should ;)

I follow a girl on Insta purely because she annoys me so badly. She eats the most dogshit looking frozen meals for EVERY. SINGLE. MEAL. She lost 50lbs, but can you imagine her health?
This post was edited on 5/23/17 at 1:37 pm
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
162932 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 2:06 pm to
I honestly check out when people start talking about charting macros, etc.

just try and stick to eating good, lean foods.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38069 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 2:26 pm to
charting macros is the best way to make progress if you are serious. in fact its the only way to gurantee success. Can't know where you are going if you don't know where you have been.

But for the normal person I 100% agree. weighing food is a completely foreign concept to people. and for many it borders on an eating disorder.

Thats why thinkgs like the paleo diet work so well. It forces people to forget about quantity and focus on quality. For 95% of the population this will get them to their goals. Its the ones that want to be completely shredded that are going to have to track things.

Rocket literally eats things like chicken fries and pizza everyday and stays well below 15%. He likes to claim its due to genetics but the MFer knows exactly how many of each macro he takes in everyday. This allows him to adjust if need be. Most people would be fat as shite if they followed his diet because they dont understand nutrition like he does.
Posted by CocoLoco
Member since Jan 2012
29108 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 2:43 pm to
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2. Avoid sugar, breads, and starches


My biggest problem. I have a very serious addiction to junk like pop tarts. I'm not fat or anything I'm 6'2 215, but for as much as I workout I should be around 200lbs.

I rarely ever eat fried food. Drink a lot of water, take in vitamins, and I workout 6 days a week. It's the frickin sweets, and bread.

Just started intermittent fasting, and I'm watching what I eat quite a bit more. Should get nice results if I stick with it.
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
83035 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 2:43 pm to
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weighing food is a completely foreign concept to people. and for many it borders on an eating disorder.

Thats why things like the paleo diet work so well. It forces people to forget about quantity and focus on quality. For 95% of the population this will get them to their goals. Its the ones that want to be completely shredded that are going to have to track things.


Yep. These diets are perfect for the majority of the population because they are mindless for the most part. No counting and weighing required.

I can't/don't do things like paleo for a variety of reasons. But the biggest is probably that I am an outlier when it comes to the average human build, so I'd still have to track. The "average" woman is recommended X amount of calories to lose weight, and I'm nearly a FOOT shorter than that woman. Therefore, that number is my maintenance number. And because I am so close to my goal (and was never huge), it is very easy to get out of being at a deficit at my height. Too much oil in the pan or too large a scoop of something can ruin my entire day's numbers.

The average person can and WILL lose weight on something like the paleo diet without tracking.
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
83035 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 2:46 pm to
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and bread.


Nature's Own 40-Calorie bread if you're just talking about sandwiches and shite. Changed my life. Grilled cheese, sandwiches, hamburgers, sloppy joes.. anything you want.

If you want to hit that sweet tooth, make french toast with it and use sugar free syrup (Mrs. Butterworths makes some) and a dusting of powdered sugar and some chopped berries. So good. I even sometimes top it with a good flavored Greek yogurt.
This post was edited on 5/23/17 at 2:48 pm
Posted by Adam4848
LA
Member since Apr 2006
19785 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 2:53 pm to
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Rocket literally eats things like chicken fries and pizza everyday and stays well below 15%. He likes to claim its due to genetics but the MFer knows exactly how many of each macro he takes in everyday.


This
Posted by IIxxBREADxxII
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
9778 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 3:11 pm to
I've been doing IF for the past 3 months. It works wonders. If you eat clean/ high protein for at least 2/3 meals a day it works even better.

I wish I could train fasted everyday but I can only do so on the weekends.

I tried eating 5-7 small extremely healthy meals a day for a while but my body never got the gains I was looking for. IF just works for me and my work schedule/ lifestyle.
Posted by tunechi
Member since Jun 2009
10577 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 3:14 pm to
The thing avatar does to try to make sure you aren't constantly filling your macros with junk is put emphasis on the fiber baseline

There are those (myself included) that use protein bars/supplements to get most of their fiber though, which isn't ideal

I didn't realize until watching a fb live on avatar's page that there were different types of fiber and it's important to get it from a multitude of sources, especially natural ones

I'd be interested to know if rocket tracks fiber, and if so where does it come from? Definitely not the pizza
This post was edited on 5/23/17 at 3:16 pm
Posted by Radiojones
The Twilight Zone
Member since Feb 2007
10728 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 3:27 pm to
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1. Drink nothing but water
2. Avoid sugar, breads, and starches (in fact anything sweet, your body will adapt)
3. Don't eat fried food
4. Eat high fatty foods and proteins
5. Get your electrolytes and vitamins/minerals in your favorite way


That is really sound advice. I truly believe sugar is poison and in a few decades we will be looking back to when everyone ate copious amounts of it the way that we look at smoking back in the 50's and 60's.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
162932 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 7:57 pm to
Actually used an app to chart today, coming up well short on what I should be taking in oddly enough
Posted by aVatiger
Water
Member since Jan 2006
27967 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 8:13 pm to
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Drink nothing but water


Nope,lulz

Never. Ever.
Posted by CocoLoco
Member since Jan 2012
29108 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 8:26 pm to
How do you guys make IF work with weekends?

I do go out on weekends sometimes, and often I'll be out until around 2am. Would I just start my fasting period later in the day? And what about cheat days?


I am about a week into this.
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
83035 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 8:38 pm to
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How do you guys make IF work with weekends?



I only eat lunch and dinner no matter what day of the week it is. No snacks. No breakfast. Never been big on either anyway.

Weekdays, I drink coffee until I'm hungry for lunch. I try to make it at least as late as noon so I'm not starving by 3. Eat dinner around 6pm-7pm and then don't eat again until lunch the next day.

Weekends, I still sleep like a teenager when I can, so I sleep in. By the time I get up and actually get moving, I'm not eating lunch until ~1pm. Dinner anytime between 6pm-8pm. Nothing extra. I count my calories by week rather than by day. Same results, but more flexibility.

I don't do a cheat day. Well, rather, I don't plan cheat days. A day of shoving pizza and Taco Bell down your face can ruin your entire week's progress depending on how much you burn through exercise and how big of a deficit you eat at during the week. If you eat at a 500-calorie-deficit (which is necessary to lose 1lb per week), that's 3500 calories you've cut out for the week. If you have a cheat day where you consume 3000 calories, you've practically canceled out everything you've done all week.

Doesn't mean you can't have foods you love. You just have to plan around them to fit them in your limits. I personally aim for 7000 per week. I'm extremely short; this is a safe amount for me. Stay as close to 850 as possible Mon-Thurs. Then on Friday, I add up whatever I've consumed all week and divide the leftovers between Friday-Sunday. Calories are like money. You can save them up and move them around. There is no set "per day" or "per meal" amount.
This post was edited on 5/23/17 at 8:41 pm
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38069 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 8:55 pm to
I'm old with kids, I don't do bars.

But you would fast longer that day and then start it later the next. Pick a day and shorten the window to get back on track for week days.

But don't over think it. Fasting 14 hours one day then 18 the next is not going to make a difference.
Posted by FootballNostradamus
Member since Nov 2009
20509 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 9:06 pm to
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Go long periods without eating(intermittent fasting)


Started this about a month ago, and I'm a HUGE fan.

I don't have as rigid, structured of a schedule as I'd like so at times I don't meet the windows I'd like, but I get pretty close.

Big fan.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 9:41 pm to
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Go long periods without eating(intermittent fasting)


What we're y'all doing before? I don't think I've eaten breakfast everyday since highschool. When I have its usually like go to waffle House with my dad twice a year or when family is all together for a Holliday or something. I can count on 1 hand how many times I've had breakfast in the last 12 months.

I usually eat lunch between 12:30 and 1 and dinner between 8 and 8:30. So I guess I have been doing IF for some time?
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290885 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 10:30 pm to
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Rocket literally eats things like chicken fries and pizza everyday and stays well below 15%



its just an internet shtick fwiw. He doesnt really eat like that
Posted by BigShotBobert
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jul 2010
948 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 11:05 pm to
Those of you that IF, how are you not starving all the time? I wake up starving every day. I'm hungry every 2-3 hours on training days and almost as often on off days. If I lift on an empty stomach I get light headed and damn near pass out. My focus, mood, and energy levels all go to crap if I'm hungry for too long. How do y'all pull this off?
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