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Lost 40 pounds, needing some advice

Posted on 10/24/19 at 10:21 pm
Posted by Razorback Reverend
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 10/24/19 at 10:21 pm
Have done well so far, although very slow. Working out 4-6 days a week at a gym. Doing 2.3 miles in 30 mins on a treadmill and weight machine circuit, then some free weights as well.

Needing to build more muscle while losing fat, if possible.

What are the supplements I can safely use to do this? Some proteins are terrible, or so I have been told.

I don't want heart, kidney, liver problems while gaining muscle mass or cutting.

Need to continue fat loss as well, thanks.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 10/25/19 at 6:27 am to
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Some proteins are terrible
how?
Posted by LSUAlum2001
Stavro Mueller Beta
Member since Aug 2003
48570 posts
Posted on 10/25/19 at 7:56 am to
He’s probably talking about powders.

Some are nothing but fillers and trash. If Walmart is selling it and it’s cheap, it probably sucks.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38031 posts
Posted on 10/25/19 at 8:19 am to
I always recommend truenutrition for protein and they have great quality, but ON is another good one.

Stick to whey protein isolates if buying commercial products.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 10/25/19 at 8:24 am to
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I always recommend truenutrition for protein and they have great quality



I love their vegan meal replacement. Use it daily.
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 10/25/19 at 8:42 am to
You don't really need any supplements, including protein powder.


Continue lifting weights, slowly increasing weights as you go on. Eat at least 2 palms' worth of protein at every meal to ensure a high protein diet, and keep on doing everything else you're doing to continue losing fat.

Building muscle + losing fat at the same time is possible, especially in those that are new to lifting and very obese, but the leaner you get the less likely it'll be. Once you get to your goal weight you can focus on building muscle more quickly.
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19122 posts
Posted on 10/25/19 at 11:26 am to
Start tracking your macros. Measure your food intake so you know exactly what you’re eating. Use My Fitness Pal app to track. Eat at least 10 g of protein per pound of lean mass. Eat good whole carbs.
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
18246 posts
Posted on 10/25/19 at 1:46 pm to
TL;DR - Eat protein, focus on form and actually pushing specific muscles to exhaustion, and don't overthink it.

I've lost a good bit of weight over the last few months as well but have absolutely noticed a lot more muscle. There was a period where my weight didn't change for several weeks but my clothes all the sudden were very baggy, but I was getting a lot of size and definition in muscles. I wish I could put it in more empirical terms but that's the best I've got.

I was doing the same thing you were but just ate a lot of protein and cut way back on the carbs. I workout 4 times a week, 20-30 mins of high intensity cardio, try to be almost tapped out by the end. Then I move to weights and target upper or lower. I focus heavily on actually activating the muscle I'm working on, even if it means starting super low weight to get form perfect. Don't just do reps to do them, actually focus on feeling the muscle do work. Bad posture and letting other muscles than the ones you want to do the work can be a killer and hard habit to break. Have noticed huge improvements since I really started drilling that. It will shock you the difference in weight you can't handle, meaning you haven't been using that muscle, from just shifting your grip or stance. Can't stress this enough. I don't keep track of the weight I'm lifting, max, or reps. I go as heavy as I can do 10 reps of while maintaining perfect form, and repeat sets until I can't finish one.

As far as supplements, I started out using NO3 boosters, pre-workout, creatine, and a post-workout protein shake. At this point I've dropped the NO3 and have dialed back the creatine, because I wasn't noticing much difference without NO3 and creatine gives me liquid shits. Creatine does help me with the amount of time I feel sore, and will get me back on that muscle group sooner, but I think I could easily go without it.

I try to eat a little something in the morning, usually a handful of almonds. I will go without but do notice a little less endurance in the gym. For awhile I guess I was intermittent fasting without trying, but can't speak too highly of it. I workout over my lunch break and the post shake is lunch. For dinner I keep it to chicken breast, thighs, pork loin, or ground beef all with some kind of vegetable.

I feel great. Drink plenty of water with the protein and I don't think you're gonna have any problems. Don't treat carbs like the devil, just try to keep them early in the day and don't eat them because they're there. I love Bananas and peanut butter in my protein shake. I don't count macros or adhere to any strict diet, I'm losing 2-3 lbs a week, and am constantly increasing the weight I lift.
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29897 posts
Posted on 10/25/19 at 2:54 pm to
I have written this before but I will try to summarize. I am down 150lbs from about 9 years ago. My son was born and I decided to not to die young on him. I wasn't just eating badly. I had back to back knee surgeries and then had a doctor cut an artery during another surgery that put me out of commission for several months.

It has been a downward staircase. Lost 90, gained 20. Lost 60, gained 20. Lost 20, gained 20. Now I am down another 40lbs over the last 3 months. I feel I have another 20 to go.

I have done it every way possible. Simply not eating. Running every night without lifting. I'm even an example that you can gain weight while doing crossfit. I have come around to the belief that what you put into your body is probably more important than what you expend working out. Took me a while to realize that.

Counting my macros has been a huge educational experience for me to learn the makeup of the foods I put into my body.

I personally think protein supplements are good and have a place. However, as I learned to manage my macros I have found that I don't need to use the protein supplements as much anymore. I'm not sure about the others. I can't take a pre-workout and get any sleep.

I think you will find it hard to build a lot more muscle while trying to lose weight. It is almost two separate processes and two different body transformations. You might focus on finishing your weight loss (get up to 3.1 miles/5k on your 30 minute runs) and then transition into building the muscle mass you want. Weight loss is a calories deficit process while you will need to have additional input into your body for the muscle growth.

I also think you have to learn what works for you. There are many paths to weight loss.
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