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Joint Pain in Knee
Posted on 9/13/18 at 9:37 am
Posted on 9/13/18 at 9:37 am
The thread about cutting back on workouts got me to thinking about this and I wanted some others opinions. I'm 37 and usually go to the gym 3-4 times a week. My goals are to lose weight and while adding a little muscle. I'm 5'10" 210 lbs and am trying to get to around 170. I started at around 225 lbs. I've changed my diet tremendously and I'm seeing results. However, recently I've noticed that after working out my knees are killing me. What are some things that I can do to alleviate some of the pain in my knees?
Posted on 9/13/18 at 11:08 am to damonster
First, Kudos for putting in the work
While you could have something wrong with your knee, this is probably a movement quality issue (poor form/execution on something).
What are you doing in the gym (particularly before it hurts)?
Exactly where is the pain?
While you could have something wrong with your knee, this is probably a movement quality issue (poor form/execution on something).
What are you doing in the gym (particularly before it hurts)?
Exactly where is the pain?
Posted on 9/13/18 at 11:21 am to damonster
It's hard to be specific from your info. Is it acute pain or generalized soreness? Does it recur after particular movements? How's your form? Prehab/rehab choices?
In general, here's some advice that has no real downside. Work muscle and joint mobility in your lower body. For lower body sessions, spend 5 minutes minimum getting your lower body warm and loose. Nail down form on any lower body exercises you're doing.
Beyond that, it's hard to say without more specificity on causation and symptoms.
In general, here's some advice that has no real downside. Work muscle and joint mobility in your lower body. For lower body sessions, spend 5 minutes minimum getting your lower body warm and loose. Nail down form on any lower body exercises you're doing.
Beyond that, it's hard to say without more specificity on causation and symptoms.
Posted on 9/13/18 at 11:24 am to LSUfan20005
Workout usually consists of 20 minutes of running on the treadmill usually 1.5 to 1.75 miles just to get my heart rate up. Then, I'll go on all of the different machines usually twice. I don't do a lot of leg work on the machines because I half a very strong lower half. When I start getting tired, I get back on the treadmill and do another 20 minutes of running/walking for 1.5 to 1.75 miles. After that, I'll go back on the machines. Usually, I'll back off the weight a little bit at this point because my arms feel like jelly. That's a typical workout.
I went one morning last week and as soon as I got on the treadmill I could tell something didn't feel right so I only did 10 minutes. When I went to the machines it really didn't feel right so I just stopped before I hurt myself. Since then my knee cap into the center of my knee hurts. I especially feel it when I'm going up and down my stairs at home. I went to the gym yesterday and got my full workout in but, today that same feeling in both of my knees is there. It's not as bad as last week but it still hurts. It doesn't really feel like a sore muscle. It feels more like it's in my joints or some type of inflammation.
I went one morning last week and as soon as I got on the treadmill I could tell something didn't feel right so I only did 10 minutes. When I went to the machines it really didn't feel right so I just stopped before I hurt myself. Since then my knee cap into the center of my knee hurts. I especially feel it when I'm going up and down my stairs at home. I went to the gym yesterday and got my full workout in but, today that same feeling in both of my knees is there. It's not as bad as last week but it still hurts. It doesn't really feel like a sore muscle. It feels more like it's in my joints or some type of inflammation.
Posted on 9/13/18 at 11:28 am to damonster
Do you lift weights for legs?
A simple cause is muscle weakness in legs shifting the stress to joints when you run.
Edit: never mind, saw machines. I would ditch machines for free weights. Machines are bad for locking you into painful movement patterns.
A simple cause is muscle weakness in legs shifting the stress to joints when you run.
Edit: never mind, saw machines. I would ditch machines for free weights. Machines are bad for locking you into painful movement patterns.
This post was edited on 9/13/18 at 11:29 am
Posted on 9/13/18 at 11:33 am to Rep520
The only reason that I don't do free weights is because normally I start my workout around 3:30-4:00 in the morning. No one is in there and I don't feel comfortable with the free weights if no one is around. The only reason I went yesterday evening was because it had been almost a week and I said I've got to get back to they gym.
Posted on 9/13/18 at 11:50 am to damonster
I would go to an orthopedist and get an x-ray just in case. It won't cost too much and you'll know if you have a problem. I have the same issues with my right knee. I went to my ortho 6 months ago and the x-ray looked fine. I now take 4 Motrin a day to kill inflammation and wear a compression sleeve when I work out which seems to help. Most of my issues come from doing lunges and squats so I changed my form a little and it has helped.
Posted on 9/13/18 at 11:52 am to damonster
Maybe something like bulgarian split squats and romanian deadlifts?
Both are super safe, easy options. In both, you hold the weights in your hands, so safety risk is minimal. If you're struggling, you can just drop the weight.
Tutorial for each, if interested:
LINK
I might consider putting a hand on a rack to stabilize at the beginning.
LINK
Both are super safe, easy options. In both, you hold the weights in your hands, so safety risk is minimal. If you're struggling, you can just drop the weight.
Tutorial for each, if interested:
LINK
I might consider putting a hand on a rack to stabilize at the beginning.
LINK
Posted on 9/13/18 at 11:56 am to damonster
Where does it hurt and how does it hurt?
Posted on 9/13/18 at 12:27 pm to damonster
Stretch and warm up joints more before hitting treadmill or weights
I've learned to be much better about that in my late 30s. I've been able to alleviate many joint pains (mostly neck and knees) with better warm up and stretching
I've learned to be much better about that in my late 30s. I've been able to alleviate many joint pains (mostly neck and knees) with better warm up and stretching
Posted on 9/13/18 at 12:50 pm to damonster
Increase quad health. Mash em, stretch em, roll em, whatever ya can find.
Posted on 9/13/18 at 2:32 pm to damonster
simple fix would be to stop running
try the bike or stairmaster or elliptical
do 100 burpees as fast as possible before and after your weight stuff
or simply increase intensity throughout your weight circuit
try the bike or stairmaster or elliptical
do 100 burpees as fast as possible before and after your weight stuff
or simply increase intensity throughout your weight circuit
Posted on 9/13/18 at 2:52 pm to Lester Earl
Yoga would help immensely
Posted on 9/13/18 at 4:55 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
simple fix would be to stop running
try the bike or stairmaster or elliptical
Yep, get off the treadmill. A lot of those are harder on your knees than asphalt.
Other things that might help: Get a good pair of knee sleeves. Work on improving your muscles around your knee to help stabilize your joint.
Posted on 9/13/18 at 6:09 pm to damonster
Had something similar and started icing my knee when I got home, taking ibuprofen, and warming up better. I also got a new pair of shoes. Had my old ones for about 8 months and I think the insoles were worn too much to offer good support. Hope you figure out what's causing it. Mine is much better.
Posted on 9/13/18 at 6:19 pm to Hu_Flung_Pu
quote:
Where does it hurt and how does it hurt?
It starts at the top of my knee(where my thigh and knee meet)and goes down to the middle of my knee cap. It’s just a really sore feeling. It only really hurts when I start to bend it going up and down the stairs but once it’s fully bent it doesn’t hurt too much. It’s kind of like it hurts to sit down on the toilet but once I’m there I’m good and then standing up again it hurts but once I’m up I’m good:
Posted on 9/13/18 at 6:21 pm to Beauregard96
quote:
Stretch and warm up joints more before hitting treadmill or weights I've learned to be much better about that in my late 30s. I've been able to alleviate many joint pains (mostly neck and knees) with better warm up and stretching
I could probably do a better job at this.
Posted on 9/13/18 at 6:23 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
simple fix would be to stop running try the bike or stairmaster or elliptical
I may try this. I’ve always liked to run on the treadmill but you may be on to something.
Posted on 9/13/18 at 6:28 pm to TigerDeacon
quote:
Yep, get off the treadmill. A lot of those are harder on your knees than asphalt. Other things that might help: Get a good pair of knee sleeves. Work on improving your muscles around your knee to help stabilize your joint.
I’m going to try this. I already wear wrist wraps because my wrists were getting sore when I use the machines and it helps. A good pair of knee sleeves may help too.
Posted on 9/13/18 at 7:04 pm to damonster
Sounds like either runners knee, or jumpers knee. Make sure to really stretch your quads, hamstrings and calves.
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