I haven't had "weight lifting" energy for 4 months now (after quitting adderall)

Quit being a pussy

That was epic mate but my ego hurts

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Mates, you may remember a couple of months ago that I started a thray on here about beginning TRT. Some of you lads gave me some feedback which caused me to reconsider and do further research, and so I wound up ceasing TRT after the initial loading dose.

I'm now 2 months out from that (and 4 months out from quitting a 12+ year adderall prescription cold turkey) and I still have energy to do a solid job at work, to manage my house, to average 15,000 steps per day, and to run hills or do heavy cardio work (tennis, pickleball, jog, etc). I do not have the energy to pursue dating and lift weights in the ways that make me feel good as man.

Is there any natural way to get this "primal energy" back? Caffeine and pre-workout hasn't worked. From what I've heard, TRT would work but my levels are not low for my age and I'd rather put that off as long as possible. I wonder if semen retention could help? I''ve upped my supplement game a ton and am taking them religiously, and this has not helped.

Should I just take the plunge and supplement my testosterone to get it to optimum levels and pay that price? I'm now at the point where maybe I am open to taking the plunge for real. But I still hope / plan to be a father so that's now my #1 hesitation in taking it. I also DO NOT want to lose my hairline - my doc said that estrogen blockers (I'm forgetting the technical name) and minoxodil can prevent that for the most part, but losing hair would make it not worth it for me. I felt weird about dwelling on this with my TRT doc b'c he's bald and I didn't want to look like a jerk by harping on my hairline.

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ok so couple things if you did the "loading phase(not real sure what you are referring to here)" and took testosterone, you shut down natural production and prolly have lower levels

the quiting the adderall is just icing on the cake

lets try and make some real changes for next 3-4 weeks and reevaluate-

#1 lets get 8 hours minimum of sleep a day. need to be practicing good sleep hygiene with no screen time after 9pm period. make it a hard stop. sleep with it cold AF, wear a facemask and ear plugs if you have any lights or sounds or use a sound machine instead of the ear plugs

#2 lets get you on a diet that is conducive to producing testosterone- ill lay that out in a minute.

#3 lets get you on some boron at 15mg every morning and on sustain alpha. we need to see if we can get the testosterone production restarted asap without moving to a Selective estrogen receptor modulator like clomid or nolva because i have a feeling they will make you lethargy and almost depression worse

#4 lets get you lifting just 2x per week right now, ill lay this out below, but you are going to have to stop being a little baby back bitch about this and just suck it up with the discipline to push through for now


#5 you need to lay off any alcohol and you need to become a pussy hound for next month or so. Im not saying that as being the big alpha guy bullshite, im saying that because you are prolly on the verge of slipping into depression and need some dopamine hits and the alpha feeling and get out of your own head with the incel beta bullshite. Even if you are married, make it a point to chase after your wife and try and frick 2x a day if possible. if you are married you know its not even possible once a day but try.


for diet-

lets keep it simple....fatty cuts of meat and 2-3 cups of white rice and or potatoes a day. not sure on weight right now so cant lay out macros but we want everything to be unprocessed and stick to red meat(grass fed if possible), free range eggs, fatty cuts of fish. minimum of 8 eggs per day.

again we are trying to get our hormone levels back where they need to be asap. look at doing 1g per lbs of BW minimum but if you can push it while staying within caloric intake do so

for workout-

lets keep it simple for right now and do a linear progression, take 20% off your current lifts for 5 and hit this, adding 5lbs for upper body, 10lbs for lower body per session

workout A-

1) Barbell Bench- 2x5, 1x5+
2) Weighted chin ups- 3 x 4-6
3) Barbell row - 2x5, 1x5+
4) Barbell Back Squats- 2x5, 1x5+

then take 10-12 min and hit a shoulder shocker routine. you can google shoulder shocker or Defranco shoulder shocker. Its just bunch of different lateral raises to get a huge pump in the delts


workout B-

1) Press- 2x5, 1x5+
2) Bodyweight Chins- 3 sets until failure
3) Deadlifts- 1x5+
4) Squats- 2x5, 1x5+

take 10-12 min to do an arm farm workout where you blast BIs and TRIs. I suggest using blood flow restriction training here and getting the best pump you can




do the above for 4-6 weeks and then go get blood work done and see where levels are and report back on energy levels


oh and stop being a little undisciplined bitch and get your scrawny arse in the there and lift the weights

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minimum of 8 eggs per day

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You still doing those football helmet neck curls?

Thanks mate

I assume it's sausage.

Creapure is the name of it, and it doesn't have some of the fillers that other creatine monohydrates have in them. It is pretty cheap compared to some supplements, and has a ton of benefits.

LINK

That's the one I order from Amazon. I get the one that is 100 servings and it is sometimes on sale for $40-50, so around 50 cents a day.

Very fricking weird, he does this alpha attitude talking in all the boards about being a the alpha perfect family and dude doesn’t even have frickign kids or even married.

He fits in with the weird little crowd over at Reddit that does the no nut November

Stop saying “Heckin” and you’ll feel better.