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Posted on 8/28/19 at 9:31 am to
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 8/28/19 at 9:31 am to
So...no?
Posted by 225Tyga
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Posted on 8/28/19 at 9:33 am to
No im not wasting time explaining things to a troll who isnt even part of the conversation but inserts themselves in it for some reason.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 8/28/19 at 9:36 am to
Simply asking you to clarify your statements is trolling?

Posted by McLemore
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Posted on 8/28/19 at 10:02 am to
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Very stupid new "fad diet" 


Is this what you mean by a troll interjecting?

Sorry, I mean "inserting."
This post was edited on 8/28/19 at 10:03 am
Posted by Paddyshack
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Posted on 8/28/19 at 10:03 am to
I, too, would like to know specifically what is wrong about that guys post.

Posted by bayou85
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Posted on 8/28/19 at 10:06 am to
The body isn't that sensitive. Intermittent fasting doesn't really burn more fat than a regular eating pattern.

It eats fat stores while you work out but when you eat, it stores what it would have burned. The body finds balance.

Just eat when your schedule allows. I fast from time to time, but its more to limit my intake to lose fat. Caloric deficit.

good luck on your journey
Posted by TigerChief10
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Posted on 8/28/19 at 11:42 am to
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yeah it is, its the new popular thing that everyone is talking about and trying. People might have been doing it years ago, but they werent talking about it. And once all the average joes start doing it, like keto...thats when its turned into the new popular fad thing to do.

what if I do intermittent w/ low carbs? Am I the fad diet god?
Posted by PennyPacker
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Posted on 8/28/19 at 11:55 am to
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No im not wasting time explaining things to a troll who isnt even part of the conversation


Well explain it to me oh wise one!! Enlighten me on this vast knowledge you have that can't be obtained through other modern methods of research and own experiences.
Posted by McLemore
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Posted on 8/29/19 at 9:58 am to
I think a lot of people just assume that because they've never studied something in detail (or at all) and start hearing about it in the mainstream, it must be just a BS fad. Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't.

We are just starting to understand a lot of the pathways for inflammasomes (eg NLRP3) and the potential benefits of beta-hydroxybutyrate as an inhibitor of same and the ways it might be a cell-fuel source for people with insulin resistant cells, including brain cells, because bhb doesn't need insulin to cross the blood-brain barrier.

CICO is often a straw man in these conversations. Yes, in a very real, thermodynamic sense, weight loss is indeed all about CICO (and really more the CI part as a lifestyle focus--"abs are made in the kitchen" and all that). However, so many debilitating and deadly ailments and diseases are metabolic, and if you're bedridden or dead, then CICO doesn't matter a whole lot.

And the research at USCw and other major institutions, on fasting to help therapeutically utilize BHB + autophagy, apoptosis, mTor, mitochondrial up regulation, etc is very real stuff. This isn't quackery.

And of course time-restricted feeding isn't a fad. Food scarcity and limited food variety throughout history has meant that people have--for most of man's existence - - eaten in a smaller feeding window and often went days without food. Our bodies are designed/evolved for that way of eating. And but-for things like public sanitation, germ theory, and step-function improvements in infant/birthing mother mortality rates, we'd have much worst/lower healthspans/lifespans than our ancestors.

Yes, some of the benefits, and especially weight loss, of time-restricted feeding are due to simple caloric restriction. But the big picture is far far more complex and interesting.
This post was edited on 8/29/19 at 10:17 am
Posted by McLemore
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Posted on 8/29/19 at 11:09 am to
just saw this in Layne Norton (gasp) Tweet


quote:

Early Time-Restricted Feeding Improves 24-Hour Glucose Levels and Affects Markers of the Circadian Clock, Aging, and Autophagy in Humans


NCBI pub

eta: LSU/BR bonus:

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This randomized controlled crossover study was approved by the Institutional Review Boards at Pennington Biomedical Research Center (PBRC; Baton Rouge, LA; protocol number: 2014-038) and the University of Alabama at Birmingham (Birmingham, AL; protocol number: 300001013). The study was pre-registered on ClinicalTrials.gov (NCT02247076) and conducted in accordance with the Declaration of Helsinki.
This post was edited on 8/29/19 at 12:47 pm
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