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Has anyone noticed a lot of Mediterranean diet hype online recently?
Posted on 1/4/19 at 6:14 am
Posted on 1/4/19 at 6:14 am
I'm seeing it in news feeds, social media, ads etc. like crazy the last 3 or 4 days.
What's the angle there? A lot of money behind pushing this diet for someone?
What's the angle there? A lot of money behind pushing this diet for someone?
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Posted on 1/4/19 at 7:18 am to Powerman
Is this 1990 again? The Mediterranean diet is terrible for your microbiome.
Posted on 1/4/19 at 9:33 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
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Is this 1990 again? The Mediterranean diet is terrible for your microbiome.
I mean, he’s probably dead in 6 months on a strict Mediterranean diet. All that grilled lamb, chicken, olives, feta, olive oil. Might as well eat Dairy Queen 4x a day. Diets have come and gone for the past 50 years, luckily we have one now that will never be replaced by a better diet. The last one ever.
This post was edited on 1/4/19 at 12:20 pm
Posted on 1/4/19 at 9:54 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
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Is this 1990 again? The Mediterranean diet is terrible for your microbiome.
Oddly enough that's one of the positive claims that the articles have been making
Posted on 1/4/19 at 9:56 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
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Is this 1990 again? The Mediterranean diet is terrible for your microbiome.
It is very low in urine consumption. Silly Europeans.
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:02 am to Rep520
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I really don't understand how weight watchers could be considered 4th by any reasonable scientific outlet. It's a diet based on basically 0 underlying principles.
7 whole percent OMG
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The ketogenic diet may have been the buzziest eating plan in 2018, but is it the healthiest overall? According to U.S. News and World Report, the tried-and-true Mediterranean diet rises to take the top honor.
A panel of health experts examined and ranked 41 popular eating plans, concluding that the Mediterranean diet is the most universally beneficial for long-term health. Further down the list, U.S. News named the DASH diet as the second healthiest, with Weight Watchers as fourth, vegetarian as 11th, vegan as 20th, Paleo as 33rd, and Whole30 and keto tied for 38th.
I really don't understand how weight watchers could be considered 4th by any reasonable scientific outlet. It's a diet based on basically 0 underlying principles.
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1. It’s good for your gut. One study found that people who follow the Mediterranean diet had a higher population of good bacteria in their microbiome, compared to those who ate a traditional Western diet. Researchers noted an increase in eating plant-based foods like vegetables, fruits, and legumes upped the good bacteria by 7 percent!
7 whole percent OMG
This post was edited on 1/4/19 at 10:03 am
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:08 am to Powerman
The fact that Paleo and Whole 30 are at 38 of 40 shows that this list is full of biased crap. I think there is plenty of evidence that suggests the Mediterranean diet is healthy, but there really isn’t one set Med diet rules list - so it’s kind of difficult to quantify. But to say that eating only non-processed, Whole Foods without any added sugar is almost last on the list when it comes to health is absurd. Just crazy to me that this can even be published.
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:09 am to LSUTiger1026
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But to say that eating only non-processed, Whole Foods without any added sugar is almost last on the list when it comes to health is absurd.
Agreed completely
I could see some apprehension about ketogenic but this is just nonsense
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:12 am to Powerman
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I really don't understand how weight watchers could be considered 4th by any reasonable scientific outlet. It's a diet based on basically 0 underlying principles.
Weight watchers is based on calorie restriction and basic calories in and out.
This gets back to an old argument, but I agree to a large degree that too many people ignore basics like that. Burning more calories than you eat is a reliable way to lose bad weight and have the benefits that come with that weight loss.
It's not complicated, but too many diets skip that basic step.
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:15 am to Rep520
Right. But types of food matter for overall health.
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:21 am to LSUTiger1026
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The fact that Paleo and Whole 30 are at 38 of 40 shows that this list is full of biased crap.
Not really. The major criticisms of each are that they require extreme restrictions in food type, which discourages long term use, and the explicit tailoring of Whole 30 for 30 days only.
I know this won't be popular, but I feel the same, and have said so here. A diet is useless if people aren't ready to make it a lifestyle choice, not a short term fix.
Giving up carbs and/or processed foods forever is a challenging commitment in today's world. I share the reservations of the people ranking the diets that the restrictions those diets call for are not going to work for most people as a lifestyle choice.
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:24 am to Powerman
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Right. But types of food matter for overall health.
Maybe, maybe not. In what i just posted, the huge variable is a person's adherence to the diet.
Types of food matter, but if the restriction in type of food drives a person to abandon the diet, the entire thing is a failure.
I don't think it's unreasonable to regard extreme limitations on type of food as a con in long term adherence to a diet. If you don't adhere, the benefits disappear.
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:31 am to Rep520
Fair point, but if all diets have a ~5% adherence rate as spouted on some publications as of late, I fail to see how an objectively more nutrient dense diet is ranked that low when determining a “healthy” diet. I would argue that what it lacks in food category restrictions it makes up for in the lack of portion restrictions. Personally, I would rather give up food groups so long as I don’t have to restrict portions, which is equally difficult to adhere to over the long term.
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:51 am to LSUTiger1026
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Personally, I would rather give up food groups so long as I don’t have to restrict portions, which is equally difficult to adhere to over the long term.
One thing I say a lot on here is that what works for you personally is HUGE. Different people do have different things that are easier. Finding a scientifically valid diet that lends itself to your tastes is very important.
I do think it may be easier to recover from a misstep on restriction diets. A high calorie day actually helps reset matabolism.
I won't say it's true, because I don't do keto, but when I hear people like OleWar talk about reintegrating carbs, it seems like a much bigger deal. With calorie restriction, if you lapse, you just start restricting again. Again, no personal experience, but guys like OleWar make it seem like lapsing on keto with refined carbs is a much bigger deal.
That said, if you prefer to give up food groups, if it works for you, that's the big thing.
Posted on 1/4/19 at 12:03 pm to Powerman
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Has anyone noticed a lot of Mediterranean diet hype online recently?
I'm pretty sure a big study just came out that supported it.
Posted on 1/4/19 at 12:05 pm to Rep520
quote:This is why I am simply doing a CICO routine...it's much easier to maintain and function in the real world for myself.
Giving up carbs and/or processed foods forever is a challenging commitment in today's world.
I understand how something like keto, or fasting, or whatever works for some people, but I'd rather not have to explain myself on what I'm doing, what program and what I eat, how many meals, etc. every time someone sees me. It's much easier to just simply say 'restricted calories' and be done with it
Posted on 1/4/19 at 1:56 pm to ItNeverRains
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grilled lamb, chicken, olives, feta, olive oil
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Might as well eat Dairy Queen 4x a day
Wait....wtf? Every one of those foods are healthy for you. Your comment makes zero sense. How is eating things found in nature except for the feta, comparable to processed crap made from shite ingredients?
As far as the original question, a true Mediterranean diet of quality meats, fish, seafood along with healthy fats and limited carbs is very healthy especially if done in a caloric deficit.
Posted on 1/4/19 at 2:00 pm to lsu777
I could be wrong but I took it as sarcasm.
Posted on 1/4/19 at 2:04 pm to LSUTiger1026
my badPosted on 1/4/19 at 2:19 pm to Rep520
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Not really. The major criticisms of each are that they require extreme restrictions in food type
If that's so important then why are other equally restrictive diets ranked higher
I'd argue the vegan diet is about as restrictive as you can possibly get
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