re: Getting in shape when you’re 51 and in your worst shape ever?

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Are you a provider?

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no im just an engineer that has a real passion for Lifting, Diet, supps and the drugs but main passion is sports performance.

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Is there a standard or bmi or some measurable data that providers are supposed to use when prescribing?

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FDA standard is 30 bmi

but you can get it with less if you dont do insurance. and its fine to use for only a small amount of weight and to help you get over a plateau but also the dosage needs to correspond to that. I wrote a guide on how to use minimum effective dosage with glp1

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I keep going back to the 6 out 8 people I personally know that are on it that I do not believe should qualify. I'm talking 5'6 female starting at 150 lb. While she looked great to start with, she now long old and frail and has "ozympic" face. I guess my main concern is abuse

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always going to be abuse, and many times people take it with zero understanding of how to diet and properly lift. well the smaller you are the more detrimental this lack of knowledge will be on your body comp

so i always recommend ghrh + ghrh when taking ozempic. I also recommend GHK-cu if you have any notions you may have loose skin. these in combo help the skin maintain elasticity

but as always with these things, you see people abuse them and combine them with massive amounts of fillers and botox

botox can be used in small amounts and everything look natural. the ghrp/ghrh peptide can be used to imrpove sleep, skin quality, skin tone and help with body comp.

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One of the two friends that I felt qualified for it (260+ 5'5" female 36 yo) is absolutely flourishing on it and looks quite good now.

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because the severe deficit didnt affect her as much. i think you mentioned she started lifting too which is extremely important along with protein intake on glp1

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THe only thing I would say about her is that her and her husband went with us to a concert and she had like 2 drinks and was WASTED.

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that happens because she is much smaller person than before

but glp1 is being studied for its effects on addiction and very specficilly alcoholism. it makes people not crave drinks no matter how much they used to enjoy it. the change is slow and subtle and many on here have talked about that

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The following morning on the way back home (4-ish hours), we had to stop about 8-10 times so she could go to the bathroom. And each was an emergency!

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so one thing about the medicine is it designed to make you want to be compliant. so if you go off on a night of drinking or splurging on all kinds of food the medicine will punish you just like it did your friend. eat small cleanish meals made up of whole foods and you will be fine 99% of the time.

go grab some McDonalds and a large DP......yea you in for a ride on the Porcelan.

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cool, ole boy is 51....do you think he hasnt tried that before? im sure he has tried it many times.

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You're assuming information we don't have. You can't accuse me of projecting then do so in your response.

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whats the definition of insanity?

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This is:

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also last thing someone that is 300 bills needs to be doing is worrying about VO2 max

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but being close to 3 bills at 51 proves he isnt capable of that kind of mentality and that instead of saying.

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Do you know this guy? I don't.


I see people make life altering changes routinely. Something happens, typically a health scare or perhaps a life event like grandchildren. Again, the safest and proven bet to getting into shape is diet and exercise. Will it be hard work? Yes. Will it require lifestyle changes? Yes. Is the OP willing to make those? I have no idea, but figure he's at least open to the idea if he's posting here.


Sorry about derailing your thread OP. I will be hoping and praying that you get the changes made in your life so you can get back to your fighting weight. Everyone here will be pulling for you and willing to help with advice and encouragement.

Point is not to brag but inspire. I’ll be 52 in December. I’m 6’1 and weigh 185 lbs. I wear 31” jeans. I lift 5 nights per week and I’m a type 1 diabetic. It’s possible to be in very good shape at our age. You can do this!

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I’ll be 52 in December. I’m 6’1 and weigh 185 lbs. I wear 31” jeans.

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Ill be 51 in July. Im 6’2 and have zero desire to weigh 185 and wear 31” jeans. Thats high schoolers boy weight my man. Not something to aspire to for most men. Maybe put on some lean muscle and bulk up. Women prefer 32-34in waist and above. Just saying.

Honestly it’s just where it lands. I eat high fat/protein to manage my Type 1 and A1Cs run in the 4.5 - 4.7 range and have eaten this way before it was “cool.” It’s tough for me to put on weight, but I’m definitely very fit as I’ve been a lifter since I was 15. Not quite sure what women desire these days but my wife seems pleased with my 31” waist and 42” chest. Hope I don’t end up single again…

OP, I know nothing about GLPs or anything of the sort, but do what you can to start the weight reduction and as the weight reduces I think you’ll find the inspiration to improve more through exercise.

WAIT wut? I have angered the almighty triple7 and earned the title of an omnipotent narcissistic douche on this board? And it only took me a couple posts to become what you quite literally are? Sorry for defending the GLP-1 position (which does not belong to you - seeing as how you have admittedly never needed or even used GLPs, but are a self proclaimed expert on the aforementioned.)
As for a fat-off challenge, lets do this. Show the people that you are a man of your word. If you post a (legit) physique pic right now, so shall I.
Either way little buddy , you dont own this board though there are many who would welcome the opportunity to blow you and take your word as gospel. Youre just another internet wanna be to me brah. Congrats on the 31” waist.

I have posted plenty of pictures on this board before back when I had my previous job and plenty of body fat scans. I don’t have anything to prove to you and I promise I know more about glo-1 than you

And a 31” jeans doesn’t equal 31” waist and I don’t wear a 31, I wear a 32

Congrats on taking the first step.

My advice in addition to what most others have said is to start wrapping your mind around feeling hungry much of the day.

Start associating the feeling of hunger with the feeling of improvement. IOW you hunger pangs are a reminder that you are on the right track.

When it gets unbearable drink a huge tumbler of water. They will subside for a while.

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so the answer to the national obesity epidemic is: “drink alot of water when you are really hungry” It will subside.” Alot of sage advice here.

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WTF are you babbling about? Go guzzle a gallon of your boyfriends jizz for all I care.

We can probably all agree that going about fitness naturally - diet, exercise, moderation, etc. - is preferable to pill popping, but given OP’s situation, maybe taking more drastic action is warranted.

Do I think that drinking water is bad advice? Of course not. It seems safe wisdom in my mind for the OP to get used to feeling a little hungry until the day his stomach shrinks and those feelings pass. I think he’s received a lot of good advice on this thread and whatever direction he takes it, I wish him the best of luck.

Some on here speak through their handles far more disrespectfully than what they’d ever do face-to-face. Perhaps keeping in mind that everyone struggles with something and the best we can do for them, and ourselves, is to help out where we can.

People come to a message board to hear layman opinions; otherwise they’d just go to a doctor. To say one opinion is better than another without a detailed understanding of the OP’s situation is foolhardy and arrogant.

Share your opinion respectfully and let the OP decide.

We were much better off as a cohesive people before the internet. To see this thread devolve begs the question, “is any topic safe?”