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re: First test results back on trt
Posted on 8/24/23 at 3:25 pm to lsu777
Posted on 8/24/23 at 3:25 pm to lsu777
I had similar symptoms to OP. Low libido, ED, felt bloated, nips were getting swollen...that's what prompted the early blood work. The blood work confirmed that the estrogen had doubled. Sorry for confusion.
This post was edited on 8/24/23 at 3:34 pm
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Posted on 8/24/23 at 4:09 pm to gerberbaby22
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Low libido, ED, felt bloated, nips were getting swollen
I got one of those. I'm cool with only needing a release 4 or 5x a week. There was a period 6 weeks in where I'm pretty sure I logged 30x for the week
Posted on 8/25/23 at 3:36 pm to Blutarsky
Interesting stuff regarding Anastrazole here. I started taking it primarily due to nips getting sensitive/knotty. I’m not overweight at all (weigh 152 @ ~8% bf, VO2 Max ~60) and in very good shape. My biggest fear is Gyno, but second guessing the AI now. I go shirtless often and if I catch Gyno my world will be crushed, lmao.
This post was edited on 8/25/23 at 3:40 pm
Posted on 8/25/23 at 3:38 pm to TigeRoots
My Estrogen went from <5 to 30 within first few months on TRT, combined with the nip issues and I kinda panicked ngl.
Posted on 8/25/23 at 3:51 pm to TigeRoots
Tamoxifen is preferred for treating gyno. So you may want to have that on hand if you’re nervous.
Posted on 8/25/23 at 5:03 pm to TigeRoots
quote:Thats still normal range, right? I’m still trying to learn this stuff, but from what I’m reading, it says to pretty much avoid AI until symptomatic? Maybe some of the vets can chime in.
Estrogen went from <5 to 30 within first few months
Posted on 8/25/23 at 5:18 pm to Uncle JackD
Yeah still normal range as of now. I may drop the AI.
Posted on 8/26/23 at 8:25 am to lsu777
Posted on 8/27/23 at 10:46 am to lsu777
|lsu777|
Do you know any peptides for TRT?
Do you know any peptides for TRT?
Posted on 8/27/23 at 7:33 pm to The White Wolf
What you mean? Nothing replaces test for trt
Posted on 8/20/25 at 10:23 am to lsu777
Hematocrit was 50 so they want me to donate. I get 150g protein/day on average and drink about 3 cups of coffee but I'm falling short of 100oz water/day. They told me to hydrate more and that could help.
Posted on 8/20/25 at 10:48 am to Marciano1
quote:Tell them they’re fricking retarded. 50 is literally within normal limits for a hct. It’ll just rebound even higher after dumping.
Hematocrit was 50 so they want me to donate.
Gameday is telling you this? That’s very discouraging in terms of their competence.
Ask them why you should dump blood with a WNL hct. It will always be on the high end, perfectly okay. TRT causes increased production of erythropoietin.
This post was edited on 8/20/25 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 8/20/25 at 12:46 pm to Uncle JackD
Agree, most lab references ranges go up to 52% for Hematocrit for the high end of normal.
Posted on 8/20/25 at 12:53 pm to Uncle JackD
quote:I guess they're thinking that once I'm injecting regularly (just got my first one last week) that it'll go beyond the 51 number (which is where their normal range stops).
Tell them they’re fricking retarded. 50 is literally within normal limits for a hct. It’ll just rebound even higher after dumping.
My thing is, if hydration causes it to elevate, then wouldn't that be a legitimate reason for the number being 50 since I only had about 1/2 a bottle of water to drink between 10pm the night before and 10am when they did the labs?
This post was edited on 8/20/25 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 8/20/25 at 12:56 pm to Uncle JackD
quote:Correct
Gameday is telling you this?
quote:
TRT causes increased production of erythropoietin.
They took this lab on my first visit, prior to starting TRT
Posted on 8/20/25 at 12:59 pm to Marciano1
No no no. Hydration will cause it to decrease. Hydration is key. That and added cardio will help keep it in check.
quote:So you were essentially dehydrated causing it to result even higher. Always try to drink at least 40oz of water prior to drawing labs do you’re properly hydrated.
about 1/2 a bottle of water to drink between 10pm the night before and 10am when they did the labs?
quote:So they want you to dump blood before even initiating TRT? Lord. All I can say is do lots of reading and research for your own sake. Very rarely do people on actual TRT doses need to dump blood. It’s 10000% fine to live with a higher Hct, people in higher altitudes have been doing it for centuries without spontaneously stroking out.
They took this lab on my first visit, prior to starting TRT
This post was edited on 8/20/25 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 8/20/25 at 1:06 pm to Uncle JackD
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Hydration will cause it to decrease. Hydration is key. That and added cardio will help keep it in check.
quote:What you're saying makes sense. That's why I'm thinking it's possible my 50 number was that high because I didn't drink properly. They didn't suggest to eat/drink before the labs and just told me to 'fast'.
So you were essentially dehydrated causing it to result even higher. Always try to drink at least 40oz of water prior to drawing labs do you’re properly hydrated.
quote:Right. They probably assume since I'm at 50 (didn't ask if I was hydrated or not), that TRT would take me higher and they don't want that.
So they want you to dump blood before even initiating TRT?
quote:Yeah I've been reading a lot for a month now and that's how I knew my regular doctor didn't know anything about testosterone treatment. He wanted me on an injection every five weeks. Just from what I read at that time, I knew that was a huge red flag.
All I can say is do lots of reading and research for your own sake
At least Gameday wanted me on weekly injections or every four days.
This post was edited on 8/20/25 at 1:07 pm
Posted on 8/20/25 at 1:09 pm to Marciano1
quote:Its fine to have water before fasted labs. You’re not NPO, just fasting for more accurate labs such as a lipid panel. Test levels and a CBC will not be affected by food.
What you're saying makes sense. That's why I'm thinking it's possible my 50 number was that high because I didn't drink properly. They didn't suggest to eat/drink before the labs and just told me to 'fast'.
Posted on 8/20/25 at 2:25 pm to Uncle JackD
quote:I spoke to the clinic just now and they essentially said what I was suspecting....they want me lower than 50 so that when I start injections regularly next week that it doesn't climb higher than 56 on my next lab in early October.
Uncle JackD
They want me to donate and drink a lot more water daily.
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